5 Jul
2008
5 Jul
'08
5:37 p.m.
I also have a short wide foot - I can't even try on shoes, dance or
otherwise, at a retail store outlet; - 7/7.5 or 37/38 European
depending on the brand. Nobody carries wide anymore, or if they do
it's nurses shoes. I've had no luck with children's shoes - my foot's
not quite small enough. The TicTacToes come in varying widths, and
have fit well. What I do from mail-order catalogs is make sure that I
can ship them back if they don't fit for little or no shipping cost,
then I buy seven or eight pair that look interesting, try them on
when they come, keep the ones I want, and ship the others back. It's
a pain, but I get shoes that fit. And once I find a pair that works
well for dancing, I buy it in another color, or sometimes even just
buy another pair to keep for a few years until the first pair wears
out, so I don't have to worry about it not being made any more!
Martha
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If, like me, you often reject shoes because they pinch at the toes,
be sure
to look in TicTacToe's catalog for a pair that specifies that it is
based on
a "Classic" last (the "last" is the wooden form upon which the shoe
is based
-- cobblers used to make a last for each individual, and some very
expensive
shoes are advertised today as "hand-lasted.")
This is one of the reasons it is often a good idea to visit a
retail dance
shoe outlet for that first pair.
For women with short wide feet (like me) -- try a CHILD's size 4 or
4.5 (the
single-digit sizes above 13). Those shoes are roughly the same
length as a
woman's 6, but because the standard last is wider with a much
deeper toe box
(than the last for a standard woman's size 6), you may find those
shoes fit
your feet. I have several pair of shoes that I wear for English
Country dance
that came straight off the rack at PayLess, in size 4.5. Even my
running
shoes are from the children's section -- and most children's shoes
are 25% or
more cheaper -- even for the same brand, style and material --
than the adult
size shoe.
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:53:09 -0700
From: Martha Wild <mawild(a)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 47, Issue 2
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Stacy,
Depends what you like - I tend to like flatter shoes with little heel
(the 1/2" heel), other women like more of a heel (say 1 1/4"). Both
sorts can be found in the Square and Round Dance category, quite
contra apropos. I have a whole raft of the Mary Janes because you can
special order them in multiple colors and in WIDE widths!!!! And you
can get the Mary Jane's either as dance shoes, with the leather sole,
or as street shoes with a hard sole, and I have a bunch of those for
non-dance as well. On the other hand, if you want a Ginger Rogers-
esque shoe for that New Year's Eve contra, you can check out the
ballroom group, or get funky with the mint-colored or two-tone Lindy
Hop series, or go country with boots. Oh, and did I say that they are
comfortable? It's a smorgasbord of terpsichorean delight. And a
variety of nice and comfy shoes for men, too.
Martha
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Martha - this looks like a great resource. Of the different styles,
which
are conducive for contra dancing?
Thanks,
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I recommend TicTacToes - check out all the dancing shoes they have
available at TicTacToes.com - I've bought quite a few pair from
them,
and they are comfortable and have great suede/leather soles and all
sorts of styles and colors and widths. They have shoes for men and
women - they have them for all kinds of dancing, from ballroom to
tap
to country Western. I can't dance in tennis shoes because since they
don't slip well I end up tweaking my right knee when doing buzz step
swings. And the prices are about usual for shoes.
Martha
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There's a great video online from the weekend at
http://whipperstompers.org/ That and Adina's description of the
weekend makes me wish that I had been able to make it (though I'm not
sure I would have survived the heat....) Definitely interested in
going next year though if they have it again. From a callers
perspective it sounds like just what I would have hoped it would be
and none of what I had worried it might be.
That being said, the dance that Charlotte is calling in the video
looked like a good one, and is one that I don't have. Anyone
recognize it? What I got from the video is:
Becket
A1 P Gypsy and Sw
A2 L Chain
LHS 1x
B1 New N B&S
B2 Gents chain
1/2 Hey (gents start by left shoulder)
Thanks!
Jack
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Hi,
I am considering buying my first pair of shoes bought expressly for
contra
dancing. What do you recommend? What do you think of suede
soles? I need
good arch support. Whatever I buy would also need to be acceptable
to dance
organizers in need of protecting their venue's floors.
Thanks,
Rickey Holt.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:10:20 -0500
From: "Mortland, Jo" <j-mortland(a)neiu.edu>
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I need to wear orthotics in my every day shoes for arch support.
So when I buy new shoes, I take the old pair, one that accommodates
the
orthotics, to a shoe clinic. I ask for "dance leather" (suede)
to be
affixed to the bottoms of the shoes, but only from the toe to the
arch
(not the heel). This way I have support and a great surface for
swinging. Costs me about $30.00. and I keep updating my dance
shoes as
I purchase new regular wear ones. (I wear SAS shoes. I used to
have a
pair of Rockports with which I did the same thing.)
Jo Mortland
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
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I sent an earlier message off list -
Same goes for me.
In my case I buy a good supportive tennis shoe, but I have swede
put on the bottom of the whole shoe. It just works for me. And it
also costs about 30-40 depending on who you go to.
I have in the past put leather on a vinyl bottomed shoe.
Of course, if you have a pair of shoes that work for you - old
sneakers, just put duct tape on them. I did that for nine years.
It worked just fine.
Laurie
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Shoes
> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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> I need to wear orthotics in my every day shoes for arch
> support.
>
> So when I buy new shoes, I take the old pair, one that
> accommodates the
> orthotics, to a shoe clinic. I ask for "dance
> leather" (suede) to be
> affixed to the bottoms of the shoes, but only from the toe
> to the arch
> (not the heel). This way I have support and a great
> surface for
> swinging. Costs me about $30.00. and I keep updating my
> dance shoes as
> I purchase new regular wear ones. (I wear SAS shoes. I
> used to have a
> pair of Rockports with which I did the same thing.)
>
> Jo Mortland
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Sorry it took me a week to respond about the
Whipperstomper. Lindsay, thanks! I'm so glad you enjoyed it that
much! It was great to see you there.
I went into the weekend with some reservations. Who would
come? What would the general attitude be? Would there be trouble
with 100 teens and 20-somethings in a state park for the
weekend? Were people open to learning? Would groups mix? Was it
going to be pro-youth, or anti-age?
Short answers: Everybody. Positive. Almost
none. Yes! Yes. Pro-youth. I'm so impressed by what happened
there I almost can't describe it.
The general attitude of the weekend, coming from the organizers and
effectively transmitted to the dancers, was that young dancers can
be a positive force in their communities. We talked about and
worked on style, dance-floor safety, encouraging and helping each
other, calling, playing for dances, and community
involvement. There was more intentional learning and discussion
than at other weekends I've been at -- the purpose wasn't only to
dance and have fun, but to build community, both with other young
dancers and with the wider community.
Dancers came from all over -- the majority from North and South
Carolina, but also from Virginia, Maryland, New York, Massachusetts,
Vermont, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, and I think a couple other
states. New England was well-represented. As Lindsay mentioned,
especially on Friday night folks danced mainly with people they
already knew, but by Sunday it was a typical dance weekend
love-fest. I was looking at the leaders of tomorrow's dance
community meeting each other, making connections, and becoming
friends, and I left feeling really good about the future of
Anglo-American folk dance.
Lindsay mentioned both the heat & lack of fans, and the passion he
saw. Those are interrelated.
There were supposed to be huge box fans for the dance hall, borrowed
from the Old Farmers Ball in Asheville, NC. Unfortunately, 2 weeks
before the Whipperstomper the ceiling collapsed in Bryson Hall at
Warren Wilson College, where the OFB weekly dance is held and the
fans are stored. (http://www.oldfarmersball.com/bryson_update.htm
for more information.) Truly miraculously, no-one was injured in
what could have been a devastating catastrophe; school had ended a
week earlier and the collapse happened a few hours before a
dance. Bryson was quarantined, so there was no way to get the fans
out. Hence the passion Linsay mentioned: In the sweltering
heat -- it was an uncooled hall in 90-some degree weather, without
fans -- there were no complaints or early check-outs, and the
dancers danced nonstop for hours.
And -- holy cow! What dancing! I've never seen such great dancing
in one place, and I say that as a dance gypsy and itinerant dance
caller. I've never called to a better group, anywhere. These kids
can DANCE! (--and do it safely, and on time!)
Watching the organizers through the process, from last fall til now,
was exciting. They did a great job, really matured in the process,
and became even better leaders. They came to see that their
responsibility within the dance community doesn't end with age x;
we're all in this together. I'm enormously proud of them! Keep in
mind that the main organizer, who drove the entire process, turned
21 that weekend. He showed incredible initiative and drive to make
it happen, learned much more than he had anticipated in the process,
and did a better job than most people probably would have
expected. For the future of the entire dance community, that
experience was priceless.
Having Ethan Hazzard-Watkins, the CDSS Youth Projects Intern, at the
weekend was a real boon. Some of the young dancers hadn't heard of
CDSS, and Ethan added a lot in outreach, information, and helping
make connections. Hopefully it will translate both to more CDSS
memberships and more participation in CDSS programs in the future.
I call the Whipperstomper was a huge success, in numerous ways. It
was terrific fun, a new generation got immersed in organizing, the
future leaders of our community made connections they'll have for
the rest of their lives, and quite a few of those southern dancers
will be making the trip to Vermont for the Youth Dance Weekend in
September. We started something good, and round 2 is sure to be
even better!
Please note that though the Youth Dance Weekend Sept. 12-14
(http://youthdanceweekend.org/) is targeted at dancers under 35, it
is not age-restricted. Those over 35 are welcome to attend, with
higher pricing. The goal is to encourage younger dancers, and as
younger people often have lower (or no) earnings, one suggestion is
that older and more financially stable dancers consider paying the
admission of a younger dancer. If you're over 35 and still want to
attend the weekend there are options available for you.
Lindsay also mentioned the wonderful facilities at Table Rock State
Park, in South Carolina. Harvest Moon's annual dance weekend,
Moondance, is also held there, Sept 5-7 2008. A wonderful
weekend! http://www.harvestmoonfolk.org/moondanc.htm for more
information. Space is still available.
Thanks for asking about the weekend, Chris. I should add one more
thing -- I'm reporting this from the perspective of one of 8 or 10
people there over the age of 35, not one of the under-35
in-crowd. It was a real honor to call there.
- Adina
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Subject: [Callers] Any Whipperstompers out there?
Hello everyone,
Anybody attend the Whipperstompers weekend a couple
of weeks ago in South Carolina? I talked with Adina
Gordon last night about it and she had some good things
to say. Adina, that's your cue to let us know how it went
and your impressions about what the organizers and
attendees took away from it. ;)
Anyone else attend and want to share their experiences?
Adina and I found out that we're both planning on
attending the Youth Dance Weekend in Vermont in
September. Anyone else going to be there?
Happy Dancing,
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:28:46 -0400
From: Lindsay Morris <lindsay(a)TSMworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Any Whipperstompers out there?
Whipperstompers was great!
Adina was great - dance games were esp cool! - the band was
excellent, and the people were very fun.
A lot of Brasstown kids hung together; a couple of people
felt a little excluded by them, but when you've got all
that history, yeah, it's hard not to bond even more....
Hot - some big box fans would have been great...
I wish I had camped - beautiful campsites close together.
Table Rock is a great facility.
<rant>
Groups that meet for primarily social reasons die (or might
as well). Groups that share a passion for something grow.
</rant>
When I sat out and just watched the dancers at
Whipperstompers, wow! Lots of passion there. Big
buckets of gotta-dance just overflowing.
Our contra-dance language continues to morph and grow,
beautifully. Lots of contact-improv and swing creeping in.
Outright theatrics, ending just in time to meet the next...
Many of these kids youngsters dancers grew up sleeping on
the corner of the stage, reels seeping into their
motion-fibers from age 1. So it's no wonder they move
at such a high level. Beautiful to watch.
We ARE part of a golden age, as someone said recently.
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looked
like a good one, and is one that I don't have. Anyone recognize it?
The Broken Mirror by Bill Olson.
http://full.pamweeks.com/mirror.html
-Chris Page
San Diego
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