3 Oct
2013
3 Oct
'13
7:48 p.m.
Not to hijack this completely, but dancing a man's role in a
men-allemande star promenade is also often really unsatisfying.
Something like 20% of the men I run into line (in the SF Bay Area) just
let go of me as soon as they've picked up their partner; 70% hold on
but stop giving weight either immediately or before the promenade part
is omplete, and it's no more than 10% who give me a satisfying
connection all through the promenade and a positive push off at the
right time.
(And in star promenades with the neighbor lady, I find that about half
of them step ahead. Good star promenade, according to me, is like this
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and what happens half the time is more like this
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I find them pretty frustrating to do most of the time, and wonderful
when they work.)
-- Alan
On 10/3/2013 11:52 AM, Andrea Nettleton wrote:
I'll just put this out there, because a ladies
allemande to star promenade was called just weeks ago in Atlanta: in a line of 20 couples,
only two other ladies gave me the right weight to satisfyingly whirl. All the gents and
we three ladies really did not enjoy the lameness of it. And no, it was not a line packed
with newbies. I have had similar issues before. Women often don't weight an
allemande enough, let alone do things like push off to twirl out. So if you write it into
the dance, the only time it will likely be well danced in my region is at festivals. I
doubt my experience is singular. A groan and much chatter arose from the floor as we
realized what was about to happen.
Andrea
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On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Donna Hunt
<dhuntdancer(a)aol.com> wrote:
I wouldn't say it was "gender swappery".
The oldest dance I can recall is the square dance Texas Star which has the "men turn
out and women turn in to make that Texas Star again". The Texas Star is a four
couple star Promenade.
There are several contemporary Contras that have ladies allemande to initiate a star
promenade, so you're in good company. Happy composing...
Donna Hunt
-----Original Message-----
From: Maia McCormick <maia.mcc(a)gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, Oct 3, 2013 10:05 am
Subject: [Callers] Women leading a star promenade?
Came up against this question while writing a dance the other day: women
leading men into a star promenade and butterfly whirl? Does this happen?
Are there compelling reasons for me not write it into a dance, or would it
be a fun bit of genderswappery? (I imagine that as far as genderswappery
goes, it's still less confusing for all involved than a gent's chain...)
Cheers,
Maia
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