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From: kim roberts <kimdependance(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: [Callers] 4 facing 4 dance with a hey for 8
Hanny, could. It be devil's dervish by Linda Leslie?
All best,
Kim
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Shadow Dances? (Greg McKenzie)
2. Report Back: Hello and a few questions... (Don Veino)
3. Re: Report Back: Hello and a few questions... (Colin Hume)
4. Groundhog day (Walter)
5. Re: Groundhog day (Luke Donforth)
6. Re: Shadow Dances? (Luke Donforth)
7. Double contra - whodunnit? (Hanny Budnick)
8. Easy and Fun (holt.e(a)comcast.net)
9. Re: Double contra - whodunnit? (Chris Page)
10. Re: Double contra - whodunnit? (Bree Kalb)
11. Re: Easy and Fun (Donald Primrose)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:30:36 -0800
From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Shadow Dances?
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Colin wrote:
Surely the objection to mixers (in The States) is
that you don't get to
swing your original partner every time through the dance. In most mixers
you wouldn't swing the same shadow every time - if you did I'd change the
starting format so that the person you swing is actually the one you
asked
> to dance.
I suspect that the real objection to unannounced mixers is that they remove
control of the partnering process from the dancers. With a shadow dance
every dancer is assigned a second "partner" in the form of a shadow,
someone they might not want to partner with. That's why some dislike
shadow swings.
I like mixers, in general. But I also think it is very important to
empower the dancers to partner with whomever they wish. This is key to
integrating first-timers as well. When you give control of the partnering
process to the regulars you also give responsibility to the regulars for
integrating newcomers. It is important to maintain the caller-dancer trust
relationship.
- Greg McKenzie
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:33:16 -0500
From: Don Veino <sharedweight_net(a)veino.com>
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Subject: [Callers] Report Back: Hello and a few questions...
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Hi, I realize I owed a report back on my first gig experience.
In the simplest summary, it went great. I had planned a program of more
basic, very connected dances based upon the crowd I was expecting. It
turned out that we had zero newbies and kept most of the crowd from the
start right through to the end, which made me want to stretch the material
in the second half. I ended up pulling up a few cards I'd prepped for
another venue, and modified a bit for better connection/orientation (eg: in
*A Rare Bird* making the pass bys into pull bys, gypsy to allemande, etc.)
and all went well.
To the best of my recollection, my program was:
Alamo Intro - Circle - Al Green
Get Me Going - DI - Lisa Greenleaf
Broken Transcription - DI - Don Veino (yet another variant on Broken
Sixpence)
Polymorphous' Reel - DI - Christine Hale (dance written in honor of the
prior incarnation of the band, request by organizer)
You're Among Friends - DI - Bob Isaacs
Butter - Becket - Gene Hubert (my video of this night's walk-through and
dance at
http://youtu.be/pqSoOvu2wI0 )
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Nail That Catfish To The Tree - DI - Walter Davies [+Bob Dalsemer]
(unfortunately, tune was not in the band's portfolio)
Special Delivery - Becket - Nell Wright
Redbeard Reel - Becket - Bob Isaacs (written for dancers that were present)
A Rare Bird - DI - Bob Isaacs, var: Lisa Greenleaf, plus mods on the fly by
me
The Big Easy - DI - Becky Hill
I had two points of trickiness in my teaching. In Special Delivery, my prep
notes were unclear about whether the B2 L Chain was across or on diagonal
so I taught it straight across then figured it out in the walkthrough it
was diagonal. In Rare Bird, I had not refined my language enough in prep to
clearly describe the current N pull by coming out of the LH Star at the
bottom of the B2, resulting in me having to talk more than I planned and
run through a second time to get it across. I now have better card notes
for both.
Thanks for the tips and info from this list! I put a bunch of it to good
use and hope to apply more soon. I got good feedback from several dancers,
had fun with the band, and the organizer was very happy (and has invited me
back).
-Don
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:40:43 +0000
From: Colin Hume <colin(a)colinhume.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Report Back: Hello and a few questions...
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Don -
Sounds as if you did a great job - congratulations!
On 26/12/2011 07:33, Don Veino wrote:
I now have better card notes for both.
That's so important - there are callers who always cause confusion at
some point in some dance but never change their card!
Colin Hume
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:13:20 -0500
From: Walter <walterdaves(a)windstream.net>
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The applicability of shadow dances notwithstanding, I have also used
tunnel dances and dances with a dip and dive progression in honor of the
other piece of the tradition, namely, coming out of the hole to greet
the whatever.
Walter
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:24:30 -0500
From: Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Groundhog day
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The applicability of shadow dances notwithstanding, I have also used tunnel
> dances and dances with a dip and dive progression in honor of the other
> piece of the tradition, namely, coming out of the hole to greet the
> whatever.
> Walter
A nice additional twist, Walter. Do you have favorites for that? I wonder
if there are any dip & dives that also have shadows...? And now I'm
contemplating a double-length (128 bar) dance where you meet your shadow
only every other time... such ways lie madness and sleepless night
choreographing dances that never get called...
Thanks though, I like the dip and dive idea.
--
Luke Donforth
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:26:14 -0500
From: Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com>
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Shadow Dances?
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Perhaps with that in mind Luke, if you are going
to have a number of
shadow dances, let the interaction with the shadow be different in each
dance: one a swing, the next allemandes, the next a gypsy, a do si do,
what
> have you. Sounds fun. Wish I could be there. :)
> Andrea
A good idea Andrea. I hadn't planned on putting in more than two shadow
dances in an evening anyway, but even at two I think varying the shadow
interaction is the way to do it.
--
Luke Donforth
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:01:53 -0500
From: Hanny Budnick <kyrmyt(a)cavtel.net>
To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?
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I failed to note it down immediately after dancing it... Maybe one of you
can
fill in the considerable gaps, please:
1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'.
2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a double dance
across the whole set
3) there's a hey for all eight in it
Your turn....
Thanks, Hanny
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:03:07 -0500
From: "holt.e(a)comcast.net" <holt.e(a)comcast.net>
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Subject: [Callers] Easy and Fun
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Hi all,
I am about to call a dance the character of which has changed from what I
expected and I need some easy dances. I had harder material planned and
while I do have some material that is probably easy enough, I am not sure
that it is. The dance is at a college. It is for college students only,
pssibly only students from that college, and we are now hoping for a large
contingent of beginers; perhaps mostly beginners. Have you any expereince
with a similar situation? I am thinking along the lines of ONS dances,
although if we made a few into regulars for the regular dance there that
would be great. So: "no-partner" dances, mixers (I have January Mixer - a
great one), Set dances ("Once and to the bottoms") .......
We intend to have a blast!
Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:14:33 -0500
From: Chris Page <chriscpage(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Hanny Budnick <kyrmyt(a)cavtel.net> wrote:
I failed to note it down immediately after
dancing it... Maybe one of you
can fill in the considerable gaps, please:
1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'.
2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a double
dance
? across the whole set
3) there's a hey for all eight in it
Your turn....
Thanks, Hanny
"Major Hey" by Erik Hoffman? It also has Rory o' More slides in it,
and is 40 bars. Though I think it's a Becket 4-face-4.
-Chris Page
San Diego
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:17:05 -0500
From: "Bree Kalb" <bree(a)mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?
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Might be Major Hey by Erik Hoffman. Here's a link to a previous discussion
and description on this list.
http://www.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers/2007-December/001112.html
Bree Kalb
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From: Hanny Budnick
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 11:01 AM
To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?
I failed to note it down immediately after dancing it... Maybe one of you
can
fill in the considerable gaps, please:
1) The choreography stems from 'someone in California'.
2) Formation: two improper contra lines, close together for a double dance
across the whole set
3) there's a hey for all eight in it
Your turn....
Thanks, Hanny
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:59:51 -0500
From: Donald Primrose <limerickfarm(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Easy and Fun
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Something to check on.. depends on the day of the week, and is there a
potential that students have been drinking. Changes the dance.
& go with the normal stuff.. no need to dumb it down, after all they
asked you to call a contra.. I assume,
-don
On 12/26/11, holt.e(a)comcast.net <holt.e(a)comcast.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I am about to call a dance the character of which has changed from what I
expected and I need some easy dances. I had harder material planned and
while I do have some material that is probably easy enough, I am not sure
that it is. The dance is at a college. It is for college students only,
pssibly only students from that college, and we are now hoping for a
large
contingent of beginers; perhaps mostly
beginners. Have you any
expereince
with a similar situation? I am thinking along
the lines of ONS dances,
although if we made a few into regulars for the regular dance there that
would be great. So: "no-partner" dances, mixers (I have January Mixer -
a
> great one), Set dances ("Once and to the bottoms") .......
> We intend to have a blast!
> Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
>
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