Maia,
(Maia asked me a questions about "gendering" and I thought I'd share it
with all. I have expanded on my previous remarks as well. My first couple
of responses were from my phone - yuk. I hate doing anything that way and
tend to become brief and unclear just because it is difficult for me to
respond. I am now at my computer where I can actually type!)
I have to say that most of my "beginner" lessons are with private group
experience and they are mostly unaware of any gender issues within the
community at large. Saying that, yes they do tend to move toward
gendered, Most folks gravitating to their personal preference or life
role. These are weddings, private equine groups, corporate things, at
dances it is a different thing all together. Recently I have been hired to
do a series of weekly contra dance lessons (I know I tried to tell them
but...I'll take the money!) for a local senior center; cumulating with a
big dance the 5th week with a band etc. So this topic is of great
interest. Hopefully this will garner some new dancers for the home dance as
well.
When (IMHO) people come to a contra dance it is at the invitation or
suggestion of a friend, co-worker, or group affiliation leader and rarely a
walk-in situation. That of course does happen but in the community here,
rarely. Those that come do not have any gendered expectations. I see
typically pairs of women (friends not couples), or mixed gendered couples
(m/w) and we hardly ever/never get same gendered, queer or other people
attending. (SADLY) When leading the introduction to contra basics (we do
not use lesson as we state NO LESSONS REQUIRED) gender is not talked
about. Like the others I sometimes use a circle if there are enough to
even lead a group. Then I teach: giving weight, circle right/left, La
Bastringue and how to swing, I talk about the music and how it "tells" you
when to move. We count 8 steps circle, 8 steps do-si-do etc. If there are
kids I do either two hand or traditional ball-room style, using the pointer
hands and opening up like a book to put people side by side. Then I
introduce Lark and Robin. as positions and anyone can dance either - dance
with who comes at you and that we all screw up including me and then when I
do, I make to sure to tell those beginners "see! I told you I would!" Most
couples (m/w) tend to want to dance together and while encouraged to dance
with others often will not and in these cases they almost always choose the
typical gender role. It has happened on occasion that they will mix it up
but that is those rare times that we get younger than 40yo people.
I call all dances Larks & Robins - UNLESS it is a really really traditional
group like my trail riding horse group. They are SO traditional...but they
seem to love it enough to beg me to do a dance at the "big weekend", it's
fun but I have to call Gents/Ladies for them.
I hope this helps.
Mary
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 2:03 PM Maia McCormick <maia.mcc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mary,
I’m curious, how do you find that the roles do or don’t break down along
gendered lines when you introduce them with this bit of history? I’d assume
that the implication that a role is traditionally for (men/women) would
bias people into dancing along gendered lines, but I’ll admit I haven’t
actually tested that hypothesis.
Cheers,
Maia
--
Maia McCormick (she/her)
917.279.8194
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:36 PM Mary Collins <nativedae(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Maia et al,
>
> I struggle with this as well. Typically I've been sharing a wee bit of
> history i.e. some dances have been around since George Washington's time
> and were written for Gents & Ladies. So I line up long ways and indicate
> that historically one line was gents and the other ladies. Talk a wee bit
> about proper dance. (Keep in mind WEE BIT, not a history lesson, a
> sentence.) Then I introduce the modern concept of gender free and indicate
> the Lark line & the Robin line and that it is not a gender but a position.
> Then I flow into alemande, do-si-do, hands 4, position in the hands four
> (ones & twos), swing and where to end...now
> Introduce improper and where Larks & Robins are now. If at this time
> people who prefer gendered position, will naturally move to that place.
> Then I add stars, right & left through, chain. Done.
>
> This sometimes feels awkward and I struggle through it. Mostly it works,
> sometime really well, sometimes not so much, sometimes I just ignore all of
> it and just teach a simple dance and do teaching as walk through.
>
> Going to a callers' gathering next (this coming weekend) Saturday and
> hopefully we can talk about this there.
>
> Love all the sharing.
> Mary Collins
> WNY
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 10:48 AM Maia McCormick via Contra Callers <
> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey there, hive mind,
>>
>> When you're calling larks and robins, during the lesson, how do you
>> a. explain the roles to the new folks, and
>> b. put the beginners into roles for the duration of the lesson?
>>
>> I've seen "try swinging in both roles and see which feels better",
I've
>> seen "unless you have a preference, whoever is standing on the right of
>> your partnership is the robin for now", I've seen "pick whichever
bird you
>> like better", I've seen "the robin's role is a little easier so
do that if
>> you feel less confident"...
>>
>> I'm curious what folks here do and in what kind of distribution, and how
>> you find it works for you in practice.
>>
>> (Please please please let's not relitigate gender-free contra or the
>> bird terms in this thread. If you really must, please make a separate
>> thread.)
>>
>> Swingingly,
>> Maia
>>
>>
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>> 917.279.8194
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