Re: When to abort a dance?
Some time ago we had a situation where the scheduled caller was
suddenly unable to call one night, so several of us took turns during
the night. Our banjo player is a caller, so she left the band to get
up and call a few, then sat down again. The next caller was teaching
a dance, when suddenly, just as we were called upon for the four
potatoes, not only did I recognize it as one I wrote, but I realized
it was the same dance that my friend had called earlier. We stared at
each other, began playing, and watched. Nothing seemed to happen,
everyone danced happily. At the end of the dance I asked a few of the
dancers what they thought of the dance, and they were all happy -
when I told them it was one they'd done previously in the evening,
their common response was "No wonder it seemed so familiar!" But no
one seemed aware at the time that it was the same dance. And we all
got a laugh out of it.
So, Chris, don't sweat it too much! It probably seemed worse than it
was because you were feeling worse than usual. If you "smile and keep
moving" as my aunt says, a lot will be forgiven and forgotten.
Martha
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> 1. when to abort a dance (Chris Weiler)
> 2. Re: when to abort a dance (Alan Winston - SSRL Central
> Computing)
> 3. Re: when to abort a dance (Robert Golder)
> 4. Please Correct A Pirate (Rickey)
> 5. Re: Please Correct A Pirate (David Giusti)
> 6. Re: when to abort a dance (Dan Black)
> 7. Re: Please Correct A Pirate (Tepfer, Seth)
> 8. Re: Please Correct A Pirate (Lisa Greenleaf)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:51:14 -0400
> From: Chris Weiler <chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org>
> Subject: [Callers] when to abort a dance
> To: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist
> appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made some
> choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized that
> it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough.
> Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a
> line "I
> don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually
> follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and
> just ran the dance a little shorter.
>
> The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in
> a row
> with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner
> swing.
> I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it
> anyway.
>
> What do you think? Abort or deal with it?
>
> Chris Weiler
> Goffstown, NH
> http://www.chrisweiler.ws/
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
> <winston(a)slac.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] when to abort a dance
> To: Chris Weiler <chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org>
> Cc: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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>
> Chris wrote:
>
>> Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist
>> appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made
>> some
>> choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized
>> that
>> it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough.
>> Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a
>> line "I
>> don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually
>> follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and
>> just ran the dance a little shorter.
>
> What wastes as little as possible of the dancer's time? Bag it if
> it doesn't
> work during the walkthrough, but if it's merely a little
> infelicitous in the
> dance and you can keep it working by prompting, then running it
> long enough
> that it feels like a dance, but not as long as a *good* dance seems
> like a good
> choice.
>
>> The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in
>> a row
>> with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner
>> swing.
>> I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called
>> it anyway.
>
>> What do you think? Abort or deal with it?
>
> Depends on the crowd, and on where you are in the evening. If
> there are enough
> beginners, doing something like this can be a positive, confidence-
> building
> strategy. If there are too many sharpies in the crowd, you can
> expect joshing
> later.
>
> But you're really asking how to make judgments when your judgment's
> impaired
> (by pain or anesthesia or whatever). That's a harder question.
>
> -- Alan
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:18:45 -0400
> From: Robert Golder <robertgolder(a)comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] when to abort a dance
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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> It's extremely useful to have some dances thoroughly memorized. I
> would
> call something else if I knew what the "something else" was going
> to be
> (preferably using one of my can't-fail memorized dances), and
> understood why the new dance I selected was going to work better than
> my original choice. Otherwise, I'd just accept that the next couple of
> dances share some choreography, call them as well as possible, and
> move
> on. Whichever option you choose, decide quickly and carry out your
> decision with confidence. ... Bob
>
> Robert Jon Golder
> 164 Maxfield St
> New Bedford, MA 02740 USA
> 508-999-2486
>
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Chris Weiler wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist
>> appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made
>> some
>> choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized
>> that
>> it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough.
>> Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a line
>> "I
>> don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually
>> follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and
>> just ran the dance a little shorter.
>>
>> The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in a
>> row
>> with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner
>> swing.
>> I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it
>> anyway.
>>
>> What do you think? Abort or deal with it?
>>
>> Chris Weiler
>> Goffstown, NH
>> http://www.chrisweiler.ws/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:19:18 -0400
> From: "Rickey" <holt.e(a)comcast.net>
> Subject: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
> To: <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Message-ID: <000001c8002f$1672e2f0$020fa8c0@maxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi I have some more incomplete notes on dances. Hard as I try, my
> own notes
> don?t always make sense to me when I get to look at them. I very much
> appreciate the help I have gotten in the past. Here are questions
> on some
> more. If you know any of these dances I would appreciate you help
> again.
>
> Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
>
> A Pirate?s Life for Me, author?
>
> (Duple Improper)
>
> A1 Neighbor Balance and Swing
>
> A2 Pass to a wave (men slide past each other into a wavey
> line of 4
> across the set)
>
> ??????
>
> Men Allemande Left to Partner
>
> B1 Partner Balance and Swing
>
> B2 Women Dos 1 ?
>
> Neighbor Gypsy (just a ?glance?)
>
> Progress to New Neighbors
>
> QUESTION: My notes on A2 seem incomplete
>
>
>
> Feet in Flight, Dale Rempert
>
> (Duple Improper)
>
> in A1 (4) Balance the ring
>
> (4) Ladies Roll neighbor GENT away with a 1/2 sashay
> (Rt to L)
>
> (8) Ladies chain to Partner
>
> QUESTION: I am not familiar with doing a roll away from a circle
> formation,
> and by the time dancers are doing a ladies chain, I expect that
> they are in
> a line. How and when do you have dancers transition into a line
> when you
> call this dance.
>
>
>
> QUESTION: I have the same problem in
>
> FORTY MOHR YEARS, Sue Rosen
>
> (Becket)
>
> in B1 Balance the ring
>
> Roll Away with a Half Sashay (Ladies or Gents Roll Away,
> depending on the version)
>
> Ladies Chain
>
>
>
> Pedal Pushers, Bob Dalsemer
>
> (Duple Improper)
>
> in A1 Gents Al? Left 1 1/2,
>
> Scoop Up Partner Star Promenade
>
> Butterfly Twirl
>
> QUESTION: What is the timing?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:02:30 -0400
> From: David Giusti <David.Giusti(a)oberlin.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Message-ID: <f9ede9e910395.10395f9ede9e9(a)oberlin.edu>
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>
> One of my favorite dances to call!
>
> It's a Pirate's Life for Me, by Nathanial Jack
> I got it from Nils Fredland's calling
> improper
> A1. N B+S
> A2. Pass through to a short wavey line/ocean wave* (4), Balance the
> wave
> R+L (4)
> Slide right (4), gents allemande left once (4)**
> B1. P B+S
> B2. Ladies allemande right 1 1/2
> Neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 to new neighbor (actually 1 3/4,
> but
> who's counting)
>
> *everybody passes through across; ladies catch left hands, give
> right to
> neighbor in short wave -- ladies in the middle, gents on ends.
>
> **This is confusing during the walkthrough, since the gents actually
> have to slide past two people, unlike the usual wave balance/slide
> figure. As long as the gents allemande by the left hand, things
> will be
> fine -- you just have to make them beleive that's how the dance goes,
> really.
>
> -David Giusti
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rickey <holt.e(a)comcast.net>
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:19 am
> Subject: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
>
>> Hi I have some more incomplete notes on dances. Hard as I try, my
>> own notes
>> don?t always make sense to me when I get to look at them. I very
>> much
>> appreciate the help I have gotten in the past. Here are questions
>> on some
>> more. If you know any of these dances I would appreciate you help
>> again.
>> Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
>>
>> A Pirate?s Life for Me, author?
>>
>> (Duple Improper)
>>
>> A1 Neighbor Balance and Swing
>>
>> A2 Pass to a wave (men slide past each other into a wavey
>> line of 4
>> across the set)
>>
>> ??????
>>
>> Men Allemande Left to Partner
>>
>> B1 Partner Balance and Swing
>>
>> B2 Women Dos 1 ?
>>
>> Neighbor Gypsy (just a ?glance?)
>>
>> Progress to New Neighbors
>>
>> QUESTION: My notes on A2 seem incomplete
>>
>>
>>
>> Feet in Flight, Dale Rempert
>>
>> (Duple Improper)
>>
>> in A1 (4) Balance the ring
>>
>> (4) Ladies Roll neighbor GENT away with a 1/2 sashay
>> (Rt to L)
>>
>> (8) Ladies chain to Partner
>>
>> QUESTION: I am not familiar with doing a roll away from a circle
>> formation,and by the time dancers are doing a ladies chain, I
>> expect that they are in
>> a line. How and when do you have dancers transition into a line
>> when you
>> call this dance.
>>
>>
>>
>> QUESTION: I have the same problem in
>>
>> FORTY MOHR YEARS, Sue Rosen
>>
>> (Becket)
>>
>> in B1 Balance the ring
>>
>> Roll Away with a Half Sashay (Ladies or Gents Roll Away,
>> depending on the version)
>>
>> Ladies Chain
>>
>>
>>
>> Pedal Pushers, Bob Dalsemer
>>
>> (Duple Improper)
>>
>> in A1 Gents Al? Left 1 1/2,
>>
>> Scoop Up Partner Star Promenade
>>
>> Butterfly Twirl
>>
>> QUESTION: What is the timing?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dan Black <blackjunier(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] when to abort a dance
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Message-ID: <425464.34200.qm(a)web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Chris,
>
> First off I'd like to say thanks for sharing the so called bad with
> the so called good. So I am not the only caller that has learning
> experiences, thanks for helping me not feel alone with this.
> Pardon my soap box. If you could do it over again what would you
> do different this time? The reason I say that is in August was a
> learning experience for me. Doing a walkthrough from the stage and
> it doesn't look right but I went with it anyway. Like you I ran it
> short and got on with the next dance.
>
> For me I would not call at the same monthly dance two months in a
> row nor saying yes when I really didn't want to call. For me I
> can't fake calling with enthusiasm. In this same dance, I tried a
> dance that I had walked through the dance during the break at
> another dance. I knew the dance worked but there was a glitch in
> the progression during the walkthrough. After a demo and one walk
> through, I canned the dance immediately. There was no way for me
> to recover this after the problem dance in the first half.
>
> See ya from the floor,
> Dan Black
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chris Weiler <chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org>
> To: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:51:14 AM
> Subject: [Callers] when to abort a dance
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist
> appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made some
> choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized that
> it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough.
> Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a
> line "I
> don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually
> follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and
> just ran the dance a little shorter.
>
> The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in
> a row
> with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner
> swing.
> I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it
> anyway.
>
> What do you think? Abort or deal with it?
>
> Chris Weiler
> Goffstown, NH
> http://www.chrisweiler.ws/
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:27:35 -0400
> From: "Tepfer, Seth" <LABST(a)emory.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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> What's the story behind the name?
>
> Seth Tepfer
> Director of Administrative Computing
> Oxford College of Emory University
> seth.tepfer(a)emory.edu
> 770-784-8487
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net [mailto:callers-
> bounces(a)sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of David Giusti
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:03 AM
> To: Caller's discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
>
> One of my favorite dances to call!
>
> It's a Pirate's Life for Me, by Nathanial Jack
> I got it from Nils Fredland's calling
> improper
> A1. N B+S
> A2. Pass through to a short wavey line/ocean wave* (4), Balance the
> wave
> R+L (4)
> Slide right (4), gents allemande left once (4)**
> B1. P B+S
> B2. Ladies allemande right 1 1/2
> Neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 to new neighbor (actually 1 3/4,
> but
> who's counting)
>
> *everybody passes through across; ladies catch left hands, give
> right to
> neighbor in short wave -- ladies in the middle, gents on ends.
>
> **This is confusing during the walkthrough, since the gents actually
> have to slide past two people, unlike the usual wave balance/slide
> figure. As long as the gents allemande by the left hand, things
> will be
> fine -- you just have to make them beleive that's how the dance goes,
> really.
>
> -David Giusti
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rickey <holt.e(a)comcast.net>
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:19 am
> Subject: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
>
>> Hi I have some more incomplete notes on dances. Hard as I try, my
>> own notes
>> don?t always make sense to me when I get to look at them. I very
>> much
>> appreciate the help I have gotten in the past. Here are questions
>> on some
>> more. If you know any of these dances I would appreciate you help
>> again.
>> Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
>>
>> A Pirate?s Life for Me, author?
>>
>> (Duple Improper)
>>
>> A1 Neighbor Balance and Swing
>>
>> A2 Pass to a wave (men slide past each other into a wavey
>> line of 4
>> across the set)
>>
>> ??????
>>
>> Men Allemande Left to Partner
>>
>> B1 Partner Balance and Swing
>>
>> B2 Women Dos 1 ?
>>
>> Neighbor Gypsy (just a ?glance?)
>>
>> Progress to New Neighbors
>>
>> QUESTION: My notes on A2 seem incomplete
>>
>>
>>
>> Feet in Flight, Dale Rempert
>>
>> (Duple Improper)
>>
>> in A1 (4) Balance the ring
>>
>> (4) Ladies Roll neighbor GENT away with a 1/2 sashay
>> (Rt to L)
>>
>> (8) Ladies chain to Partner
>>
>> QUESTION: I am not familiar with doing a roll away from a circle
>> formation,and by the time dancers are doing a ladies chain, I
>> expect that they are in
>> a line. How and when do you have dancers transition into a line
>> when you
>> call this dance.
>>
>>
>>
>> QUESTION: I have the same problem in
>>
>> FORTY MOHR YEARS, Sue Rosen
>>
>> (Becket)
>>
>> in B1 Balance the ring
>>
>> Roll Away with a Half Sashay (Ladies or Gents Roll Away,
>> depending on the version)
>>
>> Ladies Chain
>>
>>
>>
>> Pedal Pushers, Bob Dalsemer
>>
>> (Duple Improper)
>>
>> in A1 Gents Al? Left 1 1/2,
>>
>> Scoop Up Partner Star Promenade
>>
>> Butterfly Twirl
>>
>> QUESTION: What is the timing?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:49:30 -0400
> From: Lisa Greenleaf <laleaf(a)verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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>
>
>
>> B2. Ladies allemande right 1 1/2
>> Neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 to new neighbor (actually 1 3/4,
>> but
>> who's counting)
>
> Nathaniel's original ending:
>
> B2 Women Do-si-do 1.5 to face current neighbor.
> Gypsy neighbor right 1+ to progress to new neighbor.
>
> It's a little unusual, but it works.
> -- Lisa
>
>
>
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Chris,
First off I'd like to say thanks for sharing the so called bad with the so called good. So I am not the only caller that has learning experiences, thanks for helping me not feel alone with this. Pardon my soap box. If you could do it over again what would you do different this time? The reason I say that is in August was a learning experience for me. Doing a walkthrough from the stage and it doesn't look right but I went with it anyway. Like you I ran it short and got on with the next dance.
For me I would not call at the same monthly dance two months in a row nor saying yes when I really didn't want to call. For me I can't fake calling with enthusiasm. In this same dance, I tried a dance that I had walked through the dance during the break at another dance. I knew the dance worked but there was a glitch in the progression during the walkthrough. After a demo and one walk through, I canned the dance immediately. There was no way for me to recover this after the problem dance in the first half.
See ya from the floor,
Dan Black
----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Weiler <chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org>
To: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:51:14 AM
Subject: [Callers] when to abort a dance
Hello everyone,
Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist
appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made some
choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized that
it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough.
Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a line "I
don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually
follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and
just ran the dance a little shorter.
The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in a row
with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner swing.
I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it anyway.
What do you think? Abort or deal with it?
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
http://www.chrisweiler.ws/
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Hi I have some more incomplete notes on dances. Hard as I try, my own notes
dont always make sense to me when I get to look at them. I very much
appreciate the help I have gotten in the past. Here are questions on some
more. If you know any of these dances I would appreciate you help again.
Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH
A Pirates Life for Me, author?
(Duple Improper)
A1 Neighbor Balance and Swing
A2 Pass to a wave (men slide past each other into a wavey line of 4
across the set)
??????
Men Allemande Left to Partner
B1 Partner Balance and Swing
B2 Women Dos 1 ½
Neighbor Gypsy (just a glance)
Progress to New Neighbors
QUESTION: My notes on A2 seem incomplete
Feet in Flight, Dale Rempert
(Duple Improper)
in A1 (4) Balance the ring
(4) Ladies Roll neighbor GENT away with a 1/2 sashay (Rt to L)
(8) Ladies chain to Partner
QUESTION: I am not familiar with doing a roll away from a circle formation,
and by the time dancers are doing a ladies chain, I expect that they are in
a line. How and when do you have dancers transition into a line when you
call this dance.
QUESTION: I have the same problem in
FORTY MOHR YEARS, Sue Rosen
(Becket)
in B1 Balance the ring
Roll Away with a Half Sashay (Ladies or Gents Roll Away,
depending on the version)
Ladies Chain
Pedal Pushers, Bob Dalsemer
(Duple Improper)
in A1 Gents Al Left 1 1/2,
Scoop Up Partner Star Promenade
Butterfly Twirl
QUESTION: What is the timing?
Hello everyone,
Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist
appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made some
choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized that
it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough.
Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a line "I
don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually
follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and
just ran the dance a little shorter.
The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in a row
with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner swing.
I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it anyway.
What do you think? Abort or deal with it?
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
http://www.chrisweiler.ws/
Hello everyone!
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shortly afterwards. We'd like to thank everyone for sharing their
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Richard;
Here are a couple from me that work well for mixed crowds;
Pearls of Wisdom Improper, 12/7/02
A1. Neighbor allemande R 1 1/2, gents allemande L 1 1/2
A2. Partner balance, swing
B1. Circle L 3/4, neighbor swing
B2. Balance, Petronella, balance, Petronella 1 1/2
The Cure for the Claps Improper, 8/17/03
A1. Balance, Petronella, partner swing
A2. Balance, Petronella, neighbor swing
B1. Down hall in line/4 - turn alone, up hall and bend line
B2. Circle L, Balance, California twirl
This is one of those rare contras with no fractions. Because of this
dance many think I am anti-clap. I actually like the claps, but only
when going from ring to ring. When going into a swing, star, or an
allemande like the one above the claps gum up the works. Petronellas
are best when they are more than a positioning device, but use the
momentum to flow into the next move.
Bob
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Subject: [Callers] Petronella spins
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:36:22 -0400
>I would like to find a couple of fairly easy but interesting
contradances
>with petronella spins in them somewhere. I am going to call for an
unknown
>mixed dance this weekend and would like to use this figure
somewhere in the
>program. I have used "Maliza's Magical Mystery Motion" before but
it seems
>like it might be a little bit challenging if there are a lot of
beginners.
>
>
>
>Your suggestions would be appreciated. If you can include or point
me to
>the transcription, that would also greatly help.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Richard
>
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--- You wrote:
I would like to find a couple of fairly easy but interesting contradances with
petronella spins in them somewhere. ... I have used "Maliza's Magical Mystery
Motion" before but it seems like it might be a little bit challenging if there
are a lot of beginners.
--- end of quote ---
How about introducing those dancers to Petronella?
David Millstone
I think there might be a typo in the tune/dance name, which should be "Sadie _at_ the Back Door." It's a great tune - I'll have to try the dance.
Suzanne
-----Original Message-----
>From: Walter Daves <walterdaves(a)alltel.net>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2007 6:29 AM
>To: Callers(a)sharedweight.net
>Subject: [Callers] New dances
>
>I've composed three dances that I'd like to put out to the list for
>feedback. I'd appreciate any comments you might have.
>Walter
>
>Sadie and theBack door
>Duple, Improper
>Walter Daves
>
>A1: Neighbor gypsy and swing
>A2: Gents allemande left 1.5 to partner; partner swing
>B1: Gents start hey for 4, passing left shoulders in the center
>B2: Circle left 3 places; balance the ring; partner California twirl to
>face next
>
>This dance was inspired by Jere Canote's tune of the same name about his
>cat, Sadie, who would meow at the front door to get out, then
>immediately go around to the back door and meow to get back in. It
>works pretty well with that tune.
>
>Nail That Catfish to the Tree
>Duple, Improper
>Walter Daves and Bob Dalsemer
>
>A1: In ring of 4, balance the ring; circle left 2 places; balance the
>ring; circle left two places, back to starting point.
>A2: Couple # 1 balance and swing
>B1: Neighbor do-si-do and swing; end facing down the hall with #2
>couple in the middle
>B2: Down the hall 4 in line, turn single, return, #2s arch and #1s duck
>thru to next.
>
>To avoid the rush from B2 to the next A1, encourage the dancers to turn
>around after only 4 steps down the hall.
>I wrote this dance 3 years ago at the John C. Campbell Folk School Dance
>Caller's workshop. Bob Dalsemer made a couple of improvements.
>
>It was inspired by Steve Rosen's tune of the same name, and works well
>with that tune. We play it in a medley with Squirrel Heads and Gravy,
>which also works well.
>
>Little Nell
>Duple, impoper
>Walter Daves
>
>Line up in a wavy line of 4, with ladies in the center
>A1: Balance the line; allemande right .5 to wavy line with gents in
>center; balance the line;
> Gents allemande left to partner
>A2: Partner balance and swing
>B1: Ladies allemande right 1.5 to neighbor; neighbor swing
>B2: Circle left; balance the circle; ladies roll away to change places
>with partner; pass thru to next
>
>Inspired by Tony Mates' tune of the same name.
>
>*/ / *
>
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Walter,
One or two notes about KItchen Stomp. If you have new dancers or the like, this dance can be unflowing in the B2. If a dancer turns over the correct shoulder enough times and then steps into the center for the star, then it can flow very nice. When done properly the star has a sling shot effect to the next neighbor. I have seen people turn in the most interesting ways and that would make the star rushed. The timing on B1 balance can be affected by the star in B2. Please keep in mind the level of dancers that are looking to you guide them in fun. It is all about the dancers and the band for me. Thanks
See ya from the floor,
Dan Black
----- Original Message ----
From: Joy Greenwolfe <joy2the(a)mindspring.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:58:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Calls for Kitchen Stomp and Salmonella Evening
> On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Walter Daves wrote:
> Can someone write out the calls for Kitchen Stomp and Salmonella
> Evening?
> Thanks
> Walter
Coincidentally, I have Kitchen Stomp right in front of me.
Kitchen Stomp by Becky Hill
Improper
A1 N Balance & swing (16)
A2 Gents allemande L 1+/2 (8)
P Swing (8)
B1 Ladies chain to N (8)
(form a ring)
Balance the Ring, Petronella twirl (8)
B2 Balance the Ring, Petronella twirl (8)
Star L (8)
look for your new N
Suggested music notes: strong jigs or reels. Bs need punctuated 4-
beat phrases
Joy Greenwolfe
Durham, NC
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I would like to find a couple of fairly easy but interesting contradances
with petronella spins in them somewhere. I am going to call for an unknown
mixed dance this weekend and would like to use this figure somewhere in the
program. I have used "Maliza's Magical Mystery Motion" before but it seems
like it might be a little bit challenging if there are a lot of beginners.
Your suggestions would be appreciated. If you can include or point me to
the transcription, that would also greatly help.
Thanks,
Richard
