In Lost in Interstellar Haze, is the Partner
Swing in B1 a B&S or just a Swing? If just a swing, it's a really long one.
Here's the dance as I have it:
A1 RHS 1¼
Shadow Alle L (7/8)
A2 Straight Across Hey (not with P, Gs lead by R Sh)
B1 P Sw / P B&S
B2 Ladies Chain
LHS 1x
Jack
At 06:04 PM 7/9/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
> A friend of a friend asked for a description of the dance/dance movement
>called "Sugar on the Floor." It is not in my repetoire by that name, so i
>turn to your collective wisdeom.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tom
>
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I'm a new caller but a long-time organizer and dancer. I do announce dance titles and authors, as I feel it's important to let dancers know about the creative work that goes in to making their fun evening happen. I don't dwell on it too long, just enough to feed a tidbit of info about how what they're about to dance fits in to the larger dance community. Imagine the new dancer who realizes "Harold and Barbara Sittin' in a Tree" was written by a Charlotte caller for that couple sitting right over there. And that "Petronella" was written much longer ago. It's part of my own mission for our community dance to let the dancers feel a part of a community, not just pay at the door for a good time. Helps them feel a bit more ownership in the fun of the evening. I think there's room for many styles, depending on the nature of the local dance community and the goals of the organizers.
Gretchen Caldwell
Charlotte, NC
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: tic tac shoes / Dansneakers (Susan Pleck)
2. Re: Announcing Dance Names (Dan Pearl)
3. Re: Announcing Dance Names (Was: "Lost in Interstellar Haze")
(Michael Barraclough)
4. Re: Announcing Dance Names (Was: "Lost in Interstellar Haze")
(Chris Weiler)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susan Pleck <spleck1(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] tic tac shoes / Dansneakers
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(Hello folks - I'm a beginning caller, happily lurking here of late...)
Though I haven't tried other styles, I'll second the recommendation for Capezio Dansneakers. I finally just bought my first pair of dance shoes right before going to a weeklong camp - brilliant plan for breaking them in, no? But they felt totally comfortable as soon as I tried them on (granted, my feet are probably pretty "normal"), and I came out of 8 nights in a row of exuberant dancing in them with no problem. Also, I found that they offered enough but not too much traction (I don't like or at least am not used to much slipperiness), and I could also put my weight back on the heel if I chose in order to spin fast. Plus, not that expensive!
And while I'm certainly a comfort-over-fashion sort, I didn't think they were that ugly. ;) Besides, aren't we all gazing into each other's eyes anyway?
Wishing joyful dancing and calling to all,
Susan Pleck
Oakland, CA
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Subject: Re: [Callers] tic tac shoes
Hi folks -
Like a couple of you who've posted, I too have little
"tortilla feet" - short and wide, women's 6-1/2 D. I do
wear kids' shoes sometimes; that's excellent advice. But
the best shoes I've found for contradancing are Capezio's
Dansneakers. They are ugly to look at, but so comfortable
that I can dance one of those 12-hour events and still go
hiking the next day. I figure my late-night bounciness more
than makes up for the lack of glamour in the shoe
department.
Tina
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From: Dan Pearl <daniel_pearl(a)yahoo.com>
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I wholehearted agree with Susan Elberger, and with Greg a bit as well.
In general, at regular open dances I announce dance names and authors just before I begin the walk-through. It is my acknowledgement, in lieu of a license fee, to the person whose creativity I am taking advantage of by calling their dance.? I tend not to announce my own name, as I feel uncomfortable even bragging a little bit.
At one night stands, I?do not announce names or composers because in that setting I want to make every syllable count, and I want the music to start as soon as possible.??
So that's what I do.? Inconsistent? Yeah. Reasoned? Who knows...
Dan
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:49:43 -0400
From: "Michael Barraclough" <michael(a)michaelbarraclough.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Announcing Dance Names (Was: "Lost in
Interstellar Haze")
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I was about to respond to Greg (see below) when I saw that Cathy and Dan had
said just what I would like to have said (but far more eloquently).
Michael Barraclough
http://www.michaelbarraclough.com
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Michael Barraclough wrote:
>There is nothing wrong with change - sometimes it improves what was
>originally created. However I believe that it is good etiquette to
announce
>the name of the dance and its author to the dancers (before the
walkthrough,
>after the walkthrough, when the dance ends - take your pick, we could have
>another discussion about which is best!) and to announce if you have
changed
>the dance or to say that this dance is based on ....
I want to take this opportunity to present another view.
I think there are some good reasons not to announce the name of a
dance at all. This has become my own practice. One reason comes
from the idea that the caller will earn the attention of the dancers
by eliminating as much non-essential information as possible from
their comments. This is not easy. It involves careful construction
of the calls and precise walk-through instructions. It also involves
recruiting others to make announcements and eliminating anciallary
comments at the microphone. The effect is to train the dancers that
your voice always carries essential information. (The most essential
information is an instruction to physically move.) In contrast, any
non-essential information offers the dancers an opportunity to "tune
out" the caller's voice and engage in social interaction.
I consider the name and author of the dance to be non-essential
information. The caller has a limited amount of "currency" in
holding the dancer's attention. All non-essential information draws
down the caller's account. That does not mean one cannot tell
anecdotes or tell the name of a dance. It just means that callers
need to be careful how they use what currency they have. If you find
that you have difficulty earning or holding the attention of the
dancer's you might want to replay your tape of the evening and pay
attention to how much non-essential information you are giving
out. You might have over-drawn your account.
A contra dance caller needs to intersperse an evening of social
intercourse with times when the dancers need to pay careful attention
to the caller's voice. Making a courteous and seamless transition
between these two activities--without relying upon a loud PA
system--is the mark of an excellent contra dance caller.
Another reason not to tell the name of a dance is because it carries
the implied message that the name is important. Most newcomers are
likely to assume that this means that others in the hall already know
the dance. Some dancers may feel that they are less prepared because
they haven't learned this particular dance previously. This could
create unnecessary anxiety among some of the dancers in the
hall. Anxiety lowers self-confidence and will make the caller's job
more difficult. Not announcing the name puts everyone on more of an
equal status.
Perhaps we should consider alternatives to announcing the name and
author of every dance. One is to only announce the names of dances
if the name is meaningful or entertaining. A caller could also make
a list of the evening's program, with the names of the dance authors,
available to interested participants and announce this early in the evening.
I would be interested in what others think of this idea.
Regards,
Greg McKenzie
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:06:57 -0400
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I must agree with Susan on announcing dance names. My own technique is
to announce them after the walkthrough and before the music starts.
"come back to place and we'll dance ____ by ____". The beginners won't
think that they're being left out because they all have been taught the
dance, and in fact may be distracted by everyone starting to back up.
The ones who are interested and have attention to spare will hear. This
also lets the band know that we're ready for some music.
There are many ways for a caller to gain the attention of the dancers.
Scarcity of speech is one of them, but tone of voice and force of
personality do a lot more to making the evening fun. If just your tone
and style of speech can convey "I'm having fun, please join me" and
command attention and obedience as well, it really makes the evening fun
for the dancers. It's not easy, especially for someone like me who tends
to be shy, but it can be cultivated without sounding phony.
Chris Weiler
Goffstown, NH
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Hi,
A youtube video of Rick Mohr at a session Dance
Flurry 2008 - Sunday Synchromesh Contras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDwBNumufcM
has this Beckett dance (if I've transcribed it
correctly)
A1 Circle Left 3/4, Pass thru, (new)
Neighbor Dosido
A2 (back to old neighbors) Left Hand Star, (new)
Neighbor Swing
B1 Gents Allemand Left 1 1/2, 1/2 Hey
B2 Partner Balance and Swing
Was Sunday Synchromesh Contras the name of the
session or is it the name of the dance?
Ta,
Cheers, Bill
I wholehearted agree with Susan Elberger, and with Greg a bit as well.
In general, at regular open dances I announce dance names and authors just before I begin the walk-through. It is my acknowledgement, in lieu of a license fee, to the person whose creativity I am taking advantage of by calling their dance. I tend not to announce my own name, as I feel uncomfortable even bragging a little bit.
At one night stands, I do not announce names or composers because in that setting I want to make every syllable count, and I want the music to start as soon as possible.
So that's what I do. Inconsistent? Yeah. Reasoned? Who knows...
Dan
(Hello folks - I'm a beginning caller, happily lurking here of late...)
Though I haven't tried other styles, I'll second the recommendation for Capezio Dansneakers. I finally just bought my first pair of dance shoes right before going to a weeklong camp - brilliant plan for breaking them in, no? But they felt totally comfortable as soon as I tried them on (granted, my feet are probably pretty "normal"), and I came out of 8 nights in a row of exuberant dancing in them with no problem. Also, I found that they offered enough but not too much traction (I don't like or at least am not used to much slipperiness), and I could also put my weight back on the heel if I chose in order to spin fast. Plus, not that expensive!
And while I'm certainly a comfort-over-fashion sort, I didn't think they were that ugly. ;) Besides, aren't we all gazing into each other's eyes anyway?
Wishing joyful dancing and calling to all,
Susan Pleck
Oakland, CA
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Subject: Re: [Callers] tic tac shoes
Hi folks -
Like a couple of you who've posted, I too have little
"tortilla feet" - short and wide, women's 6-1/2 D. I do
wear kids' shoes sometimes; that's excellent advice. But
the best shoes I've found for contradancing are Capezio's
Dansneakers. They are ugly to look at, but so comfortable
that I can dance one of those 12-hour events and still go
hiking the next day. I figure my late-night bounciness more
than makes up for the lack of glamour in the shoe
department.
Tina
Tina R. Fields, Ph.D.
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Hi folks -
Like a couple of you who've posted, I too have little
"tortilla feet" - short and wide, women's 6-1/2 D. I do
wear kids' shoes sometimes; that's excellent advice. But
the best shoes I've found for contradancing are Capezio's
Dansneakers. They are ugly to look at, but so comfortable
that I can dance one of those 12-hour events and still go
hiking the next day. I figure my late-night bounciness more
than makes up for the lack of glamour in the shoe
department.
Tina
Tina R. Fields, Ph.D.
(707) 824-9318
"Hindsight Now!"
Hi Callers,
I need a substitute caller in Exeter, NH for AUGUST 9th. The dance starts at
7:30 p.m. YOU WILL NEED EXPERIENCE TEACHING BEGINNERS. MANY OF THE DANCERS
PRESENT WILL NEVER HAVE DANCED BEFORE. You can expect about 30 dancers to
show up. As we share the gate, you will not make a lot of money. We have a
great house band (Stone Soup), and you are very likely to have a great time.
Let me know if you are available and I will send you directions.
Rickey Holt.
Hi,
I just recently did a dance with 2 Petronella Turns in it, the dance is
below, and realized that I had a question about it. If any of you remember
the dance Petronella, from which the figure was copied, you will remember
that when we moved one place to the right, we moved from the line to the
SPACE between the lines, then to the opposite line, then again to the SPACE
between the lines, then home (when we did it with four people this was still
the amount moved). Describing this from the point of view of one particular
dancer, when we do a Petronella turn today, it seems to me, that dancer
moves what we would have called 2 places to the right to end up in the other
line, then one place up the line, then 2 places to the other line then one
place down the line. From the point of view of the other dancers this is
similar. I assume that this is true of all modern contras that borrow this
Petronella turn. Is this how you see it?
The dance I called was Kitchen Stomp, by Becky Hill
(A1) Neighbor balance and swing / (A2) Men Allemande Left (1 and ½ ),
Partner Swing / (B1) Ladies Chain over, Petronella Balance and Turn / (B2)
Petronella Balance and Turn, Star Left.
Thanks,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
Rickey, I don't understand the difference as you see it. In the original version
of Petronella, where just the active couple does the turns, yes, those dancers
start on the side, move to the space, then to another side, then to a space, and
back again to their starting place.
When all four dancers became involved-- the version that Dudley dubbed
"Cirtonella" and which became the most common version in New England for several
subsquent decades-- once the active couple had completed the first turn, all
four dancers were in a diamond. Each of the three subsequent turns moves each
dancer one-quarter around the, counterclockwise. Because the actives had started
first and had four such movements, they ended up at home, while the inactives
ended up in the middle space (inactive man above, inactive woman below) and they
needed to move out of the way to their own proper side to allow room for the
actives to proceed down the center.
Today's many dances that incorporate Petronella twirls-- David Smukler lists
more than 100 of what he's dubbed Petronella spinoffs-- tend to start with
dancers in lines. That four person ring is oriented squarely across the set,
rather than on the bias at a 45-degree angle to the lines, but the geometry
holds true. Each dancer moves one-quarter of the way around the ring with each
turn. The difference, such as it is, is in orientation, not in amount of
turning. If you start on a side, you either end up on the side again or across
the set. (e.g., if you were the left-hand dancer in a couple facing across,
after one turn, you'd be where the person on your right had been, and after a
second turn, you'd typically be across from that spot.)
However, the business of moving from a position in a line to another position in
a line also allow the possibility (clever possibility in such dances as Pigtown
Petronella and Maliza's Magical Mystery Motion) of making one turn, then joining
hands in a new foursome to make a second turn.
David Millstone
Lebanon, NH
