Warning: rabbit hole ahead.
Colin: I read your text for your workshop. All useful stuff and you do say
more than "treat your partner as a neighbour".
Re Michael Fuerst's quote, I agree that end-effects are what they are and
they are not (necessarily?) the point of the dance, but they sometimes must
be dealt with head-on. Example: I have tried to make any sense of the end
effects in the dance The Hobbit
http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_283.html . I think it's a
great dance - if you can avoid the ends - but I'll be [darned] if I can
make it around the end successfully. I've tried calling it, walking thru at
a callers workshop with several experienced dancers and none of us could
make sense of the end-effects. We were missing some magical key to
understanding (perhaps guarded by Smaug). "Go where you are needed" wasn't
going to work. Nor were the other rules. Sometimes, it seems, the
end-effects must be taught just as the dance. No easy feat.
Colin Hume via Callers
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I'm not sure that dancing with ghosts is the best way to deal with end-effects
- I prefer "treat your partner as a neighbour".
I have a whole section of notes on End-effects at
https://colinhume.com/dtendeffects.htm
Colin Hume
Thanks for all the great ideas; it is much appreciated.
I was particularly intrigued at the thought of incorporating an MWSD figure
(I know squat about MWSD and had no idea there were so many figures.).
So, I've settled on a short list of 3 possibilities and, as it happens, our
community has a caller workshop this coming weekend so I'm going to ask the
dancers to suffer through the 3 options to see how the options dance, in
practice. I think the dance would work well with any of them but each
provides a somewhat different feel.
Ken
I agree that changing the rollaway so ladies roll their partners away
left-to-right fixes the issue I raised in A1 of "Tamlin's Cross." I think
it would be a fun variation on the rollaway-swing transition, which, in my
experience, is always done with gents rolling ladies away.
Dugan Murphy
Portland, Maine
dugan at duganmurphy.comwww.DuganMurphy.comwww.PortlandIntownContraDance.com
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Luke Donforth <Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Dugan,
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I liked the gents roll partner away (from R to L)
> when it went into a DSD (it feeds the common twirl direct); but I can see
> your concern when it's running right into the swing.
>
> Would ladies roll their partner (L to R) work better in your opinion? The
> gents would pick up the same clockwise rotation they have in a swing. It's
> more on the Ladies role to catch then.
>
Recently I was invited to set up a display at two bridal shows. I've come
up with a flyer advertising my services, a short video of a recent wedding
dance I lead, a picture or two I can display. Can you think of anything
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attention to my table. Besides candy, can anyone think of some unique
favor that might or might not be dance or music related that would be a
cheap, unique give-a-way?
Thanks!
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I am need of some choreographic gerrymandering from the braintrust.
I have the flow the way I want in a dance that first gelled about 10 years
but when some folks walked it through for me, more recently, they said,
"uh, Ken, I'm not swinging my N, it's my P."
"Dang," said I.
Here's the dance. the problem is "How do I get neighbours who are beside
each other in an ocean wave (A1) to the other side of the set for a swing?"
(A2) (short of calling on Mr. Scott for a teleport)
So, I need the first half of A2.
Return from Vulcan Becket
A1 (8) Cir L 1.0
(8) Slide left and cir 3/4 the next couple to a wavy line.
A2 (4,6,8?) (balance wave, not critical) get gent to other side of set with
neighbour [hmmm... Ladies alle L 1/2, P alle R 1/2, Gents alle L 1/2 - I'm
not convinced]
(12,10,8?) N Swing
B1 (8) Gents alle L 1.5
(8) Scoop P in star promenade/B'fly Whirl
B2 (8) Ladies alle R 1.5 while gents orbit CCW
(8) P Swing
Thanks for any ideas.
Ken Panton
Another great option, Jack; and plenty creative.
Thanks.
I can see this will need some blind taste tests!
Now I'm very curious what further solutions may appear.
Ken
On 8 April 2018 at 23:46, Jack Mitchell <jmitchell.nc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m with Tom - I think that a wave is going to be too limiting. One thing
> that comes to mind is circle left 3/4, balance the ring, partner roll away
> - swing neighbor. I think that would be a slightly modified Wowee (a la
> Bob Isaacs & friends). I’m sure that others will come up with more creative
> options but that is what came to mind.
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:00 PM K Panton via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I am need of some choreographic gerrymandering from the braintrust.
>>
>> I have the flow the way I want in a dance that first gelled about 10
>> years but when some folks walked it through for me, more recently, they
>> said, "uh, Ken, I'm not swinging my N, it's my P."
>>
>> "Dang," said I.
>>
>
etc etc etc.
> --
> Jack Mitchell
> Durham, NC
>
My favorites are:
New England Dancing Masters -
Assembly, Other Side of the Tracks
Any Jig or Reel
Sashay the Donut
Chimes of Dunkirk
(These last two have a lot of children's dances, but many of the tunes are
medleys and can be used for various community & contra dances)
High Clouds, Greenfield Dance Band
Susan Kevra's Full Swing
Richard Forest and Domino (Quebecois music)
Bev Young
Tom, Ben & Jane:
Thanks for your responses; I feel relieved.
The dance I've written is as follows and includes a ring balance followed
by R'n'S then down the hall. the transition A2->B1 will be a bit of a run
(X trails to a ring balance).
Here it is, in case you are curious.
The name? Inspired by Love at First Swing (Bob Isaacs) - the basic
structure is the same - with a, (granted) somewhat forced, allusion to that
first time your new sweetie makes you laugh just as you've taken a large
sip of a fizzy beverage! ha ha :)
*Love at First Snort (Ken Panton, April 2018)*
Improper
*CALL *
*A1*
*(8)*
*Bal the ring; spin R*
*(8)*
*Swing P*
*A2*
*(8)*
*Bal the ring; spin R*
*(8)*
*Swing N*
*B1*
*(8)*
*Bal the ring; x trails*
*(4)*
*with new N, Bal the ring*
*(4)*
*Rip/Snort to line of 4*
*B2*
*(8)*
*Line of 4 down the hall*
*(8)*
*with N, turn as couples and return*
I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a
dance with a Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain
says 4 is too short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with
a ring balance for a total of 8 beats.
I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of
it.
Thanks
Ken Panton
