Responding to Jean's post - reproduced at the bottom of this note.
<<Apologies for the length of this note, but it is a complex area, better
handled on the dance-floor rather than through this very limited form of
communication.>>
There are countless ways to swing. Every generation in every country in
every style of dance has their own way of doing it. Countless variations on
body position, arm positions, foot positions, foot movements and more. So
we will never get agreement on every aspect of swinging. And that is fine -
each couple, at the moment in time that they are swinging together, creates
a beautiful (hopefully) experience.
In England there is a lot of stepping at some dances (especially at
e-ceilidhs) and we do indeed bounce in the swing, not so much in a close
hold as that can be awkward, but in a slightly more open hold both people
can skip around with lots of bounce. I wouldn't normally do it in contra
dance, but when I meet a first-timer who skips through a contra then I do
too - it works fine and is great fun for a change!
But for now, let's focus on a smooth buzz-step swing.
We haven't discussed the man's left hand connection to the lady's right hand
yet! :-) Again there are lots of ways - my personal preference is the one
shown on the cover of Larry Jennings' "Zesty Contras", with the man's left
hand cupping the lady's right elbow and vice-versa. It is a lovely hold,
taking up less room on a crowded dance-floor, adjusting your angle slightly
to reduce the V between you, and providing two more contact points for
countering centrifugal force.
Sadly, that hold seems to have fallen out of favour. Things change!
But the one thing that is constant in every form of swing is physics.
So let's look at how that works.
Energy comes from somewhere and is used to generate Angular Momentum.
We use that Angular Momentum to spin at a certain speed, our Angular
Velocity, rotating around a shared axis.
What we are fighting against is our Moment of Inertia - the resistance of
our joined bodies to rotating.
The Moment of Inertia is a measure of how far our mass is from the
rotational axis.
These three elements are related by this equation:
Angular Momentum = Moment of Inertia x Angular Velocity.
The Angular Momentum comes from us using our feet against the floor. For a
fixed amount of energy from our feet, if the Moment of Inertia goes up then
the equation says that the Angular Velocity has to go down, and vice versa.
So, once we have generated some Angular Momentum, how fast we go depends on
how close together we are. If we move further apart then our Moment of
Inertia increases and our Angular Velocity decreases. LEANING BACK MAKES
YOU GO SLOWER!
Jean says, "To end the swing, the partners stand more and more upright which
naturally slows the momentum." Sorry, standing upright and therefore coming
closer together will reduce your Moment of Inertia so you will go round
FASTER! The reason you slow down is not because you stand more upright, it
is because you move your feet more slowly in preparation for the end of the
swing, thus reducing your Angular Momentum. (Note: we are looking here at
how fast we are spinning, not at how fast any particular point on our body
is moving.)
Watch any ballet dancer or ice-skater preparing for a spin. They extend
their arms to increase their Moment of Inertia, start spinning to generate
some Angular Momentum, then bring their arms in to reduce their Moment of
Inertia - the Angular Velocity increases. They spin faster!
Your example of a two-hand turn seems to me to be mixing up weight and mass,
my apologies if I have misunderstood.
Your weight is straight down - the pull of earth's gravity. You are keeping
that under control by taking your weight with your feet. And please,
nothing personal, but I really don't want you to give me any of your weight!
I have enough of a challenge looking after my own :-)
Centrifugal force makes your mass try to move away from the centre as you
rotate - this is what you need connection to counter.
If you force the two dancers to maintain zero tension in their arms during
the two-hand turn, then, yes, they can't move as fast because they are
having to work at not moving away from each other just using the friction of
their feet on the ground.
If you allow them to use their arm muscles, then they can increase the
tension to counter centrifugal force. They don't need to lean or pull.
Indeed leaning just slows you down as you move away from each other, and
pulling just makes your arms tired.
A world class (partner dancing) champion and teacher once taught me, "Always
start at zero tension and build up to the minimum you need to do the move."
I believe that this is excellent advice. Just counter centrifugal force and
you will achieve your optimum speed; there is no need to add more tension!
:-)
If you are pulling or leaning, then if you let go you will probably stumble,
but if you are just countering centrifugal force and let go, then you should
move smoothly away in a straight line.
When I am demonstrating this I usually use an Allemande rather than a
Two-Hand Turn. Just take an Allemande hold making a nice W of your joined
arms. If you walk around with no tension in your arm then you will move
away and your arm will straighten. If you pull too hard you will move
together and end up arm-wrestling. But if you both gently increase the
tension just enough to counter centrifugal force then you have a great
Allemande where the nice W shape of your arms stays constant.
I don't understand the idea of leaning left or right to speed up or slow
down. The only way to change your speed in a frame is by how fast and far
you move your feet. All your Angular Momentum comes from your feet. There
is nowhere else it can from. I dance with one lady who leans very far to
her left. Rather than holding her up and making my arm ache, I move my hand
down to her waist so she has to become more upright or fall over; if she
keeps leaning then I let go and let her slide all the way around me,
catching her again when she comes around to the front - quite a nice move
actually! :-)
For me the essence of a good frame is connection through contact. The human
body is amazing, if my hand is on your back or your fingers and I move it
slightly then you can feel that movement and respond to it with your feet.
Leading is about giving the follower an invitation using gentle signals
through your connection. Following is about responding to the leads. It is
called lead and follow, not drag and resist! I specialise in dancing with
two ladies at the same time. I lead they follow. I really don't want them
to fight back! You can see me at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE6Iu6Fh6bw
Yes, a little of it is choreographed, but most of it is me leading and them
following. I do most of those moves at dances with strangers - I first
dance individually with them to make sure they follow without resisting!
Of course, some of our disagreement may just be to do with our
interpretation of words. I much prefer to refer to connection, contact,
relaxing and gentle counter-balances than tension, resistance, leaning and
giving weight. I feel that those words are too easily misunderstood.
When I dance with dancers who relax and use minimum tension and good
technique then I have a wonderful evening of fast swings and allemandes and
go home feeling great. When I have lots of partners who lean, pull, press
and resist then the moves are all slower and I end up with aching shoulders.
Even if you don't agree with all of this, I hope it at least has given some
food for thought. The best place to follow up on this would undoubtedly be
the dance-floor. I hope to see you there one day! :-)
Happy dancing,
John
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Jean's Post:
I was a bit surprised by the comment that went something like "She's
supposed to be following, why would she want to resist him?" In 25 years of
teaching couple dancing, during my initial ranting about frame, I've had
lots of interesting questions from students, but haven't heard that one yet.
Remember the line in "Dirty Dancing" " you stay in your space, I'll stay in
mine"? Gentle resistance is the essence of frame.
Let me preface this small collection of web gleanings below by a line from
one of them : "I have a feeling that honorable teachers will differ on this
point."
Here's my position:
Non-believers in the cone (within reason as I initially stated) might want
to try this exercise. Have 2 dancers join both hands, stand upright with
nice posture, each supporting 100% of their own weight. No noodle arms of
course. Put something on the floor in the middle of them (rock, cup?) and
ask them to circle around the object as fast as they can while maintaining
absolutely upright posture and supporting 100% of their own weight. You
could time their revolutions per minute. Then ask them to "Give weight"
(let's reflect a moment on that "give" "weight" ..give to whom? Whose
weight?..why, your weight to your partner of course or rather both your
weights given to the central part of the frame). Each person leans back
from the feet a bit, maybe you have them move their feet in toward the
object a bit?and they find the central balance point?certainly not enough to
topple if let go, but to begin to feel that sensation?then ask them to
repeat the exercise. Time their revolutions. More important, ask them which
felt more thrilling. It is not that one partner is throwing weight on the
other, its not that the man has a burden of holding the woman?s dead weight.
Its that they?ve found a physical balance point. An 80 pound grandchild
could do this with a 200 pound granddad.
What I find very interesting in this exercise, which I use in each waltz
class before teaching couple turns and couple pivots, is that the folks have
a bit of a hard time following the instructions for the first part?they want
badly to make a cone at the very start?they know or their bodies know that?s
the way to go faster And of course the couple doesn?t maintain the cone at
the end of the swing, so the suggestion they would topple over as an
argument against the cone is reductio ad absurdum. To end the swing, the
partners stand more and more upright which naturally slows the momentum. The
instantaneous forming of the cone and the dissolving of it are, in fact,
meta-leads that signal the start and finish of the swing.
And re: the woman pressing back into the Man?s right hand. It?s called by
many dance teachers "finding the lead". Some nights when I am social dancing
the man?s part, I find many women partners who have bought into the biggest
lie in couple dancing "Be light as a feather in a man?s arms". If I can?t
find you I can?t lead you!! Women whose backs come to rest shy of my palm
are absolutely unleadable. A nice firm press back into my right hand by her
shoulder blade maximizes skin (and nerve) contact so she can feel the
slightest suggestion I may give her.
?
http://www.cocoabeachcontra.org/contrais.htm
The Swing. Contra dance's flagship move is a spin in ballroom position.
Develop a good swing and people will want to dance with you! Experienced
dancers are eager to give you pointers, so ask, and try them when they're
given whether they're requested or not.
* Hand position. The man's right hand goes on the lady's back on or
just below the bra strap, placed to support her weight in the spin. The
woman?s left arm goes on top of his arm and around his shoulder with the
hand wherever it lands. If she can reach behind his shoulder, she should
support the spin as well, but don't stretch to reach if you are much smaller
than he is. The other hands touch lightly. Their arms should be tensed, with
elbow bent, creating a "frame."
* The spin. Rotate the frame to your left, placing your right foot
down on every odd beat, parallel to your partner's. Left feet can walk or
"buzz step" (ask for a demo). Do not bounce! That's for (bad) movies. Rotate
as smoothly as you can, like a merry-go-round. Leaning left asks to go
faster, right asks to decelerate. If you easily get dizzy, say, "spin
slowly" when you start.
* Giving weight. Keep your upper body straight and lean out to give
your partner a feeling of connectedness. Your arms hold you together; if you
let go you should fly apart (so don't!). It's a tension between the two
people - you can feel that there's someone there. Look at each other! If
they're smiling, you're doing fine. If not, ask.
*
* adapted from information created by Gary Shapiro ?
*
http://www.ras-this.com/dance-frame-vs-spaghetti-arms/
On the other hand ladies, it is our responsibility to offer a stable frame.
One that is a constant, toned resistance, equal to that of our partner ?
http://www.cyber-tango.com/art/frame.html
Maybe I'm just stuck in a certain style that works for me, but I have
partners here with whom I cannot dance very well at all because they don't
maintain a "V". I have a feeling that honorable teachers will differ on this
point. http://www.jmnelson.com/studio/dance/articles/summary.pdf
Closed Position:?.The man's right wrist should be at the back edge of the
woman's armpit, fingers and thumb together, hand cupped slightly, resting
gently on her shoulder blade. The man is responsible for keeping his hand in
the proper position,and the woman is responsible for keeping gentle pressure
against his hand?
http://socialdancemusings.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/dance-frame/
Have tension in your arms so each partner can move the other around. Sit
back a bit, settle your weight, use your frame to hold the two of you up.
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Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
Hi Kalia,
Here is Larry Jenning's definition of Give-and-take (from
"Give-andTake" http://www.kempt.net/~entropy/zcs/zcs-complete.pdf ):
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GIVE-AND-TAKE: <<General definition adopted by some callers and composers:
>>The "swingers", a man and a woman facing across the set, meet, join free
hands, retreat to the designated side of the set, and prepare to swing.
Unless otherwise specified, the dancers retreat to the man's side.
Original implementation: I visualized a very crisp, four-count
interpretation. The previous twosomes (not the new twosomes) end the
previous figure (perhaps a swing, a promenade, or a courtesy turn) in half
shoulder-waist position. The previous twosomes move forward at the start of
the phrase, and the swingers form new twosomes by joining free hands
(woman's right, man's left). The woman resists for a moment while they
establish firm but elastic connection, and they take only two more counts to
position themselves to swing a step cw around the entire set from where the
man started. This puts the set in SAWTOOTH FORMATION.
I was put on the defensive by a woman who let me know in no uncertain terms
that she was not about to be given or taken by any man. I felt much
relieved, therefore, to find "give-and-take", with the hyphens even, in the
dictionary: "the practice of compromise." Now that's my kind of attitude; I
even invite you to compromise with your swinger (and with me) by taking up
to as many as eight counts for your implementation.
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Text in <<>> was added in later editions.
Larry, in his dances "Give-and-Take I" and "Give-and-Take II" does
explicitly specify the swing after each Give-and-take, but I am sure it is
implied in the dance instructions you were querying.
You can get your own copy of "Give-and-Take" from
http://www.neffa.org/give_and_take.html
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
Hello Bob - Can you elaborate on the A1 in Criss Cross Heys? I don't
understand "pass thru R." If it's becket and the circle L is all the way
around, then you're passing through across the set, yes? Are you passing
thru on the right diagonal? Sorry to be dense ;-)
--
JoLaine Jones-Pokorney
"We are as gods and might as well get good at it!"
- Stewart Brand
There are a couple of other dances I'm having trouble tracking down.
One is Hotpoint Special, which I think may be by Rick Mohr, and again
there's a band by that name. Criss-Cross Hey by Bob Isaacs is another.
Kalia
I have a scribbled note from a dance weekend back in February that I
really enjoyed this dance but I didn't get the author's name, and now
all I can find online is references to the band with that name. Can
anybody point me to a source?
Kalia
A year or two ago I was at a dance where Rhodri Davies called some squares with Allemande Alphabet figures, of the form:
Allemande (corner) left to an Allemande X: Pass your partner and swing the next.
Allemande left to an Allemande R (appears in MWSD as Allemande Thar): chain right then left to a back-up star.
Where can I find more of these? Were there well-agreed uses of each letter, or did the caller just make up something that rhymed as well as being danceable?
Edmund Croft,
Cambridge, UK
Hi everyone,
I had the pleasure of calling Lynn Ackerson's 4x4 "Coconut Cream Pie" for the first time last night. It was, forgive me, easy as pie for everyone to get - which I suppose was her reason for writing it as it's a simplified version of Apple Pie Quadrille. (It was also perfect for an American 4th of July weekend dance, featuring both stars and stripes [long lines]. Ha.)
Do you have other favorite, not too difficult, 4-facing-4 dances you're willing to share?
Tina
Here in the Monadnock region of NH, where I call mostly community, school
and camp "barn dances," whenever there are folks over 60 they invariably
request, "Oh, Johnny, Oh"!
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> I apparently scribbled this on a card after dancing it, but never got the
> name and author. I?m also not completely confident that I wrote it
> accurately so am hoping to find a video of it somewhere.
>
> It?s improper.
>
> A1 Star Rt 1/2 way; men drop out and loop behind partner as the women
> continue to turn; men rejoin the star and all end up where they started
> Repeat
>
> A2 Hey for four (I assume women start by the Left?)
>
> B1 Partner Bal and Swg
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> B2 Women chain, Left hand star
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> Thanks for even considering helping me out with this.
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> The name is Of The Mills by John Gallagher
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> It can be found here:
> http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_112.html
>
> The A1 should be:
>
> RHS 1/2, gents loop back to fall in behind partner
> RHS 1/2, gents loop back at home and face across while the ladies
> allemande R 3/4 to face partner
>
> Hey starts passing partner by L shoulder
>
> Is this possibly going to show up in your program saturday? It's a
> great dance and it's been a long time since I've gotten to dance it.
>
> Jack
>
>
> On 7/5/2013 12:22 PM, Bree Kalb wrote:
> > I apparently scribbled this on a card after dancing it, but never got
> the name and author. I?m also not completely confident that I wrote it
> accurately so am hoping to find a video of it somewhere.
> >
> > It?s improper.
> >
> > A1 Star Rt 1/2 way; men drop out and loop behind partner as the women
> continue to turn; men rejoin the star and all end up where they started
> > Repeat
> >
> > A2 Hey for four (I assume women start by the Left?)
> >
> > B1 Partner Bal and Swg
> >
> > B2 Women chain, Left hand star
> >
> > Thanks for even considering helping me out with this.
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> > Bree Kalb
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> Jack, as usual, to the rescue! Thanks very much. Yes, it is a contender
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> The name is Of The Mills by John Gallagher
>
> It can be found here:
> http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_112.html
>
> The A1 should be:
>
> RHS 1/2, gents loop back to fall in behind partner
> RHS 1/2, gents loop back at home and face across while the ladies
> allemande R 3/4 to face partner
>
> Hey starts passing partner by L shoulder
>
> Is this possibly going to show up in your program saturday? It's a
> great dance and it's been a long time since I've gotten to dance it.
>
> Jack
>
>
> On 7/5/2013 12:22 PM, Bree Kalb wrote:
> > I apparently scribbled this on a card after dancing it, but never got the
> > name and author. I?m also not completely confident that I wrote it
> > accurately so am hoping to find a video of it somewhere.
> >
> > It?s improper.
> >
> > A1 Star Rt 1/2 way; men drop out and loop behind partner as the women
> > continue to turn; men rejoin the star and all end up where they started
> > Repeat
> >
> > A2 Hey for four (I assume women start by the Left?)
> >
> > B1 Partner Bal and Swg
> >
> > B2 Women chain, Left hand star
> >
> > Thanks for even considering helping me out with this.
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> > Bree Kalb
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> you may want to take that up with the folks who cited you at
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> ? ? *
> >? ? ? ? * adapted from information created by Gary Shapiro ?
> >? ? ? ? *
> Huh? I don't see anything of mine anywhere in the conversations about
> swinging and frames etc.
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> Hello folks,
> ?
> I am considering a recording project?that spans the?gap between modern
> club dancing and traditional squares.? From a traditional perspective, what
> are the most common singing calls in your area of the country?? What are
> the most well received by the dancers?? Are there any that you wish were
> available in an instrumental?pre-recorded version??
> ?
> My vision is to use traditional dance figures with traditional music in?a
> format?that club? callers would use and that club dancers would enjoy.?
> (That typically means 7x64? beats)
> ?
> I have enjoyed Ralph Sweet's recent CD and Bob Dalsemer's two sets,? Some
> of those songs would be appropriate for my project as well as songs like
> Goodbye My Lady Love, and many others.
> ?
> I'd appreciate any input and/or suggestions.
> ?
> Rich Sbardellla
> Stafford, CT?
> ?
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> Dave,
>
> I came up with that variation on my own but that doesn't make me the
> first to do so.
> To me and others the variation is pretty obvious.
>
> Tom
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:49:06 -0400
> From: Joseph Kwiatkowski <jkwiat(a)netsync.net <javascript:;>>
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Singing Calls
> Message-ID: <51D83C72.3050101(a)netsync.net <javascript:;>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> CDSS just published Nils Fredland's work "New River Train, Square Dances
> from the Collection of Keith Blackmon". There's a lot of 30s-40s-50s
> popular songs in that book. Living in the area, I'm certainly biased,
> but I would hope some of those might pick up popularity in the rest of
> the country.
>
> Joe Kwiatkowski
>
>
> On 7/5/2013 8:59 PM, rich sbardella wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I am considering a recording project that spans the gap between modern
> club dancing and traditional squares. From a traditional perspective, what
> are the most common singing calls in your area of the country? What are
> the most well received by the dancers? Are there any that you wish were
> available in an instrumental pre-recorded version?
> >
> > My vision is to use traditional dance figures with traditional music in
> a format that club callers would use and that club dancers would enjoy.
> (That typically means 7x64 beats)
> >
> > I have enjoyed Ralph Sweet's recent CD and Bob Dalsemer's two sets,
> Some of those songs would be appropriate for my project as well as songs
> like Goodbye My Lady Love, and many others.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any input and/or suggestions.
> >
> > Rich Sbardellla
> > Stafford, CT
> >
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"Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to
be silent."
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> Is there a dance figure tied to Oh Johnny?
I recently met a delightful local guy who grew up playing for his father in
southwestern NH, who promised to sing me the whole dance when we meet
again next week! I will duly write it down and share it here.
On Saturday, July 6, 2013, wrote:
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> 1. Re: Singing Calls (Jack Mitchell)
> 2. Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s (Tina Fields)
> 3. Re: Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s (Mac Mckeever)
> 4. Re: Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s (Dorcas Hand)
> 5. Re: Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s (Tina Fields)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:31:21 -0400
> From: Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;>>
> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Singing Calls
> Message-ID: <51D86279.5040403(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> If you don't have the two collections of singing squares that Nils
> Fredland has edited, you may want to check them out. In the case of Oh
> Johnny, the chorus is a grand square.
>
> Here are links to the CDSS store pages for the two collections.
>
>
> New River Train: Singing Squares from the Collection of Keith
> Blackmon
> <http://www.cdss.org/product-details/product/new-river-train.html>
>
>
> On the Beat with Ralph Sweet
> <
> http://www.cdss.org/product-details/product/On-the-Beat-with-Ralph-Sweet.ht…
> >
>
>
> On 7/6/2013 1:15 PM, rich sbardella wrote:
> > Is there a dance figure tied to Oh Johnny?
> > Rich
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/6/13, Allison Aldrich <animaterra321(a)gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Allison Aldrich <animaterra321(a)gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Singing Calls
> > To: "callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>" <callers(a)sharedweight.net<javascript:;>
> >
> > Date: Saturday, July 6, 2013, 1:01 PM
> >
> >
> > Here in the Monadnock region of NH, where I call mostly community, school
> > and camp "barn dances," whenever there are folks over 60 they invariably
> > request, "Oh, Johnny, Oh"!
> >
> > On Saturday, July 6, 2013, wrote:
> >
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> >>
> >> 1. Need name and author of a dance (Bree Kalb)
> >> 2. Re: Need name and author of a dance (Jack Mitchell)
> >> 3. Re: Need name and author of a dance (Bree Kalb)
> >> 4. Re: Cone shaped swings (jean francis)
> >> 5. Singing Calls (rich sbardella)
> >> 6. 3-33-33 (Tom Hinds)
> >> 7. Re: Singing Calls (Joseph Kwiatkowski)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 12:22:51 -0400
> >> From: "Bree Kalb" <bree(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> >> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: [Callers] Need name and author of a dance
> >> Message-ID: <70741C892E8B4389B50D49509FC62B02@BreeHomeLaptop>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I apparently scribbled this on a card after dancing it, but never got
> the
> >> name and author. I?m also not completely confident that I wrote it
> >> accurately so am hoping to find a video of it somewhere.
> >>
> >> It?s improper.
> >>
> >> A1 Star Rt 1/2 way; men drop out and loop behind partner as the women
> >> continue to turn; men rejoin the star and all end up where they started
> >> Repeat
> >>
> >> A2 Hey for four (I assume women start by the Left?)
> >>
> >> B1 Partner Bal and Swg
> >>
> >> B2 Women chain, Left hand star
> >>
> >> Thanks for even considering helping me out with this.
> >>
> >> Bree Kalb
> >> Carrboro, NC
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 12:45:25 -0400
> >> From: Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Need name and author of a dance
> >> Message-ID: <51D6F825.1090000(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> The name is Of The Mills by John Gallagher
> >>
> >> It can be found here:
> >> http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_112.html
> >>
> >> The A1 should be:
> >>
> >> RHS 1/2, gents loop back to fall in behind partner
> >> RHS 1/2, gents loop back at home and face across while the ladies
> >> allemande R 3/4 to face partner
> >>
> >> Hey starts passing partner by L shoulder
> >>
> >> Is this possibly going to show up in your program saturday? It's a
> >> great dance and it's been a long time since I've gotten to dance it.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/5/2013 12:22 PM, Bree Kalb wrote:
> >>> I apparently scribbled this on a card after dancing it, but never got
> >> the name and author. I?m also not completely confident that I wrote it
> >> accurately so am hoping to find a video of it somewhere.
> >>> It?s improper.
> >>>
> >>> A1 Star Rt 1/2 way; men drop out and loop behind partner as the women
> >> continue to turn; men rejoin the star and all end up where they started
> >>> Repeat
> >>>
> >>> A2 Hey for four (I assume women start by the Left?)
> >>>
> >>> B1 Partner Bal and Swg
> >>>
> >>> B2 Women chain, Left hand star
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for even considering helping me out with this.
> >>>
> >>> Bree Kalb
> >>> Carrboro, NC
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:03:04 -0400
> >> From: "Bree Kalb" <bree(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> >> To: <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>, "Caller's
> discussion list"
> >> <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Need name and author of a dance
> >> Message-ID: <281ABC1CB50C472BAF8EBEB3B1B8906E@BreeHomeLaptop>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
> >> reply-type=response
> >>
> >> Jack, as usual, to the rescue! Thanks very much. Yes, it is a contender
> >> for
> >> Saturday.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jack Mitchell
> >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 12:45 PM
> >> To: Caller's discussion list
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Need name and author of a dance
> >>
> >> The name is Of The Mills by John Gallagher
> >>
> >> It can be found here:
> >> http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_112.html
> >>
> >> The A1 should be:
> >>
> >> RHS 1/2, gents loop back to fall in behind partner
> >> RHS 1/2, gents loop back at home and face across while the ladies
> >> allemande R 3/4 to face partner
> >>
> >> Hey starts passing partner by L shoulder
> >>
> >> Is this possibly going to show up in your program saturday? It's a
> >> great dance and it's been a long time since I've gotten to dance it.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/5/2013 12:22 PM, Bree Kalb wrote:
> >>> I apparently scribbled this on a card after dancing it, but never got
> the
> >>> name and author. I?m also not completely confident that I wrote it
> >>> accurately so am hoping to find a video of it somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> It?s improper.
> >>>
> >>> A1 Star Rt 1/2 way; men drop out and loop behind partner as the women
> >>> continue to turn; men rejoin the star and all end up where they started
> >>> Repeat
> >>>
> >>> A2 Hey for four (I assume women start by the Left?)
> >>>
> >>> B1 Partner Bal and Swg
> >>>
> >>> B2 Women chain, Left hand star
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for even considering helping me out with this.
> >>>
> >>> Bree Kalb
> >>> Carrboro, NC
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:17:05 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: jean francis <catherineaura(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> To: "callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>" <
> callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Cone shaped swings
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <1373044625.7529.YahooMailNeo(a)web162605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com<javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: jean francis <catherineaura(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> To: Gary Shapiro <lets-dance(a)garyes.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>; callers web <
> >> callers-request(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 11:07 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Cone shaped swings
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> you may want to take that up with the folks who cited you at
> >> http://www.cocoabeachcontra.org/contrais.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Gary Shapiro <lets-dance(a)garyes.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> To: jean francis <catherineaura(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 1:04 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Cone shaped swings
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM, jean francis catherineaura-at-yahoo.com|sharedweight-garyes|
> <
> >> f7yw3q1ajt(a)sneakemail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> ? ? *
> >>> ? ? ? ? * adapted from information created by Gary Shapiro ?
> >>> ? ? ? ? *
> >> Huh? I don't see anything of mine anywhere in the conversations about
> >> swinging and frames etc.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 17:59:35 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: rich sbardella <richsbardella(a)snet.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> To: "callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>" <
> callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>,
> >> jean
> >> francis <catherineaura(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: [Callers] Singing Calls
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <
> 1373072375.19531.YahooMailClassic(a)web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com<javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>
> >> Hello folks,
> >> ?
> >> I am considering a recording project?that spans the?gap between modern
> >> club dancing and traditional squares.? From a traditional perspective,
> what
> >> are the most common singing calls in your area of the country?? What are
> >> the most well received by the dancers?? Are there any that you wish were
> >> available in an instrumental?pre-recorded version??
> >> ?
> >> My vision is to use traditional dance figures with traditional music
> in?a
> >> format?that club? callers would use and that club dancers would enjoy.?
> >> (That typically means 7x64? beats)
> >> ?
> >> I have enjoyed Ralph Sweet's recent CD and Bob Dalsemer's two sets,?
> Some
> >> of those songs would be appropriate for my project as well as songs like
> >> Goodbye My Lady Love, and many others.
> >> ?
> >> I'd appreciate any input and/or suggestions.
> >> ?
> >> Rich Sbardellla
> >> Stafford, CT?
> >> ?
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 08:34:48 -0400
> >> From: Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> >> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> Subject: [Callers] 3-33-33
> >> Message-ID: <311EFAF3-8A6E-4DF4-A0AA-898CAD191F0F(a)earthlink.net<javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> I came up with that variation on my own but that doesn't make me the
> >> first to do so.
> >> To me and others the variation is pretty obvious.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:49:06 -0400
> >> From: Joseph Kwiatkowski <jkwiat(a)netsync.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Singing Calls
> >> Message-ID: <51D83C72.3050101(a)netsync.net <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> CDSS just published Nils Fredland's work "New River Train, Square Dances
> >> from the Collection of Keith Blackmon". There's a lot of 30s-40s-50s
> >> popular songs in that book. Living in the area, I'm certainly biased,
> >> but I would hope some of those might pick up popularity in the rest of
> >> the country.
> >>
> >> Joe Kwiatkowski
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/5/2013 8:59 PM, rich sbardella wrote:
> >>> Hello folks,
> >>>
> >>> I am considering a recording project that spans the gap between modern
> >> club dancing and traditional squares. From a traditional perspective,
> what
> >> are the most common singing calls in your area of the country? What are
> >> the most well received by the dancers? Are there any that you wish were
> >> available in an instrumental pre-recorded version?
> >>> My vision is to use traditional dance figures with traditional music in
> >> a format that club callers would use and that club dancers would enjoy.
> >> (That typically means 7x64 beats)
> >>> I have enjoyed Ralph Sweet's recent CD and Bob Dalsemer's two sets,
> >> Some of those songs would be appropriate for my project as well as
> songs
> >> like Goodbye My Lady Love, and many others.
> >>> I'd appreciate any input and/or suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> Rich Sbardellla
> >>> Stafford, CT
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Callers mailing list
> >>> Callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
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> >>
> >> End of Callers Digest, Vol 107, Issue 10
> >> ****************************************
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 12:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> To: "callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>" <callers(a)sharedweight.net<javascript:;>
> >
> Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
> Message-ID:
> <1373140122.3816.YahooMailNeo(a)web184404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com<javascript:;>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I had the pleasure of calling Lynn Ackerson's 4x4 "Coconut Cream Pie" for
> the first time last night. It was, forgive me, easy as pie for everyone to
> get - which I suppose was her reason for writing it as it's a simplified
> version of Apple Pie Quadrille. (It was also perfect for an American 4th of
> July weekend dance, featuring both stars and stripes [long lines]. Ha.)
>
>
> Do you have other favorite, not too difficult, 4-facing-4 dances you're
> willing to share?
>
> ?
> Tina
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mac Mckeever <macmck(a)ymail.com <javascript:;>>
> To: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>, Caller's
> discussion list
> <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
> Message-ID:
> <1373141139.10520.YahooMailNeo(a)web165006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com<javascript:;>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> are we thinking of the same dance?? I agree - this is a easy 4X4 and I
> like it - but I don't see any resemblance to Apple Pie Quadrille - which I
> really like to call - especially with newer dance groups.? I find it much
> easier than Lynn's dance.
>
> Mac McKeever
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> To: "callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>" <callers(a)sharedweight.net<javascript:;>
> >
> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 2:48 PM
> Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I had the pleasure of calling Lynn Ackerson's 4x4 "Coconut Cream Pie" for
> the first time last night. It was, forgive me, easy as pie for everyone to
> get - which I suppose was her reason for writing it as it's a simplified
> version of Apple Pie Quadrille. (It was also perfect for an American 4th of
> July weekend dance, featuring both stars and stripes [long lines]. Ha.)
>
>
> Do you have other favorite, not too difficult, 4-facing-4 dances you're
> willing to share?
>
> ?
> Tina
> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:06:57 -0500
> From: Dorcas Hand <handd51(a)tekkmail.com <javascript:;>>
> To: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>, Caller's discussion
> list
> <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
> Message-ID:
>
> <68BE1BAE269CBC4B80BD58B034C86C9901DB077E1D32(a)mx1.networkservice.local>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Could you post the calls? Sounds great!
> Dorcas Hand
> Houston
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;> [mailto:
> callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Tina Fields
> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:49 PM
> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>
> Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I had the pleasure of calling Lynn Ackerson's 4x4 "Coconut Cream Pie" for
> the first time last night. It was, forgive me, easy as pie for everyone to
> get - which I suppose was her reason for writing it as it's a simplified
> version of Apple Pie Quadrille. (It was also perfect for an American 4th of
> July weekend dance, featuring both stars and stripes [long lines]. Ha.)
>
>
> Do you have other favorite, not too difficult, 4-facing-4 dances you're
> willing to share?
>
> ?
> Tina
> _______________________________________________
> Callers mailing list
> Callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:14:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> To: Mac Mckeever <macmck(a)ymail.com <javascript:;>>, Caller's
> discussion list
> <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
> Message-ID:
> <1373141650.14180.YahooMailNeo(a)web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com<javascript:;>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Interesting, Mac. Now I wonder if we have different variations on the
> Quadrille, because the only difference I see between that and Coconut Cream
> Pie is the added B2 Bal the Ring/CA twirl that allows the dance to continue
> on in a contra line formation rather than being static among the same 8
> dancers. Would you post your version?
>
> ?
> Tina
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Mac Mckeever <macmck(a)ymail.com <javascript:;>>
> >To: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>; Caller's discussion
> list <callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 2:05 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
> >
> >
> >
> >are we thinking of the same dance?? I agree - this is a easy 4X4 and I
> like it - but I don't see any resemblance to Apple Pie Quadrille - which I
> really like to call - especially with newer dance groups.? I find it much
> easier than Lynn's dance.
> >
> >Mac McKeever
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> >________________________________
> > From: Tina Fields <tfields8(a)yahoo.com <javascript:;>>
> >To: "callers(a)sharedweight.net <javascript:;>" <callers(a)sharedweight.net<javascript:;>
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> >Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 2:48 PM
> >Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
> >
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I had the pleasure of calling Lynn Ackerson's 4x4 "Coconut Cream Pie" for
> the first time last night. It was, forgive me, easy as pie for everyone to
> get - which I suppose was her reason for writing it as it's a simplified
> version of Apple Pie Quadrille. (It was also perfect for an American 4th of
> July weekend dance, featuring both stars and stripes [long lines]. Ha.)
> >
> >
> >Do you have other favorite, not too difficult, 4-facing-4 dances you're
> willing to share?
> >
> >?
> >Tina
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