I know this has been discussed a couple times before, but I can't find the
discussion. How can someone with the callers digest reply to a chain? Must
it always appear as a new thread?
Any suggestions or step-by-step would be great! Thanks!
-Sargon
Hmm...lots of comments about teaching. I must say that I don't agree
with all of them :-)
First, about implied comments in a workshop. While I agree that
nonverbal speech is important, we shouldn't promote it over the
content of what is said. If we really go down that path, we might as
well consider what clothes you wear, whether you speak with an accent,
and what side you part your hair (anybody else remember some people
mentioning that was why Al Gore lost the election in 2000?). Should
your nonverbal speech overpower the things you say -- it's just as
likely it's because of the things you're saying as it is your
nonverbal impressions.
Furthermore, if a dance is setting aside time for an introductory
workshop and organizers advertise it in promotional material, then
having new dancers go through figures is absolutely positively not a
"waste of time." Honestly, as a dancer -- if I'm going to bother to
cut my dinner short so I get to the dance early, I'm not expecting to
sit around and listen to a pep talk of how wonderful the dance is
going to be. I want to know what I'll be doing and how I'll be doing
it. If I wanted to learn on the fly, I would have showed up at the
start time at the dance. There is an implicit understanding that if
people show up early they want some value added...someone to show them
the ropes in a low-pressure situation. While we understand all contra
dancing to be low pressure, first-time dancers (especially those who
have never danced anything but the Macarena) are petrified...as
testified by many of my friends and colleagues I've tried to drag to
dances. We owe them a physical heads up on what to expect just as much
as we ought to build up their confidence.
Second, I'm surprised at all the suggestions about weight, buzzstep,
and eye contact. Personally, when I do introductory workshops, I want
to equip new dancers with the tools that will make them more likely to
succeed. I don't think giving weight and eye contact are necessarily a
part of that. And having them go through the motions of "buzzstep" can
be an instant turnoff for many people who feel as though they "can't
dance." As experienced dancers, those are the things WE value in a
great dance or great dance partner...the smoothness, the connection --
it's exciting TO US. But I think by and large, beginner dancers want
to just be at the right place at the right time. We can all remember
countless movie scenes, where the incompetent dancer leads his partner
into every nearby couple, who proceed to glare disapprovingly. That's
every non-dancer's nightmare. So my vote is to get them to face the
right direction during a swing, walk with their feet facing the right
direction, and where to end up when it's over. All the bells and
whistles of contra can come later.
That's not to say I wouldn't mention the concepts of weight, buzzstep,
or eye contact, but they are not central to a beginner's learning and
doesn't make them more or less able to do a dance. Alert them to the
existence of such things, but then leave it to them to pick it up
instinctively throughout the night. They'll be dancing with dozens of
partners who can impart the suggestions for more eye contact, weight,
or other enhancements to the dance. It behooves other dancers to coax
them along with those details, but from the get-go, I think those
topics are about as useful as telling them that it's customary in
circles for the gent's hand to be on the bottom and the lady's on top
--- they'll figure it out!
For my part, I try to use as many "location" type verbal cues
especially early on in my calling: up/down/across. Get newbies cued in
to how to find where they are and where the calls suggest they go. I
try to remind them about how to locate themselves, where to stand,
gents left/ladies right -- basically giving them the tools so that
even if they're lost in the *figure* of the dance, they're not lost on
where they are on the floor. The "contra grid" is so etched in our
minds, I think it's often hard to realize there was a time we didn't
understand it :-D
Anyway, enough of my diatribe...just had to comment on this thread!
-Sargon
What a great discussion - some wonderful ideas and quotes to use.
But I am afraid that I don't agree with everything that has been said,
and I see some people have also already sent in some dissenting comments
to some of the statements that have been made.
Please forgive me if I have misunderstood anything, but the written word
is not the best way to communicate, and American English v UK English
can sometimes be a challenge as well.
Someone said:
"The ladies put their left hand over the gent's shoulder"
I don't believe that it is a good idea to tell the lady to put her hand
over the gent's shoulder.
1) Quite often the length of the man's arm and the relative heights and
position of the bodies mean that it is not easy for the lady to reach
there, so she ends up pulling him too close.
2) What is she going to do with it when she puts it there? She
shouldn't be using it to hang on with as she should be keeping her own
balance.
3) If you want to add any interesting variations, during the swing, or
on the exit, then the lady's hand being stuck behind the man means you
are very limited in what you can do without dislocating her shoulder.
A MUCH better position for the lady's hand is resting gently on the
man's upper arm so that she can turn in either direction easily.
"and lean back very gently."
I find it VERY dangerous to suggest to anyone that they should lean in
any part of the dance. A swing should be an effortless, relaxed
symmetrical, counter-balanced, coupling that both parties can enjoy.
You are responsible for your own balance at all times in a dance. If
you let go in a swing then you will move backwards because of
centrifugal force, but you shouldn't fall over. Leaning back commits
part of your weight to your partner who then has to waste their energy
trying to stop you falling over; it takes them off balance and is very
tiring.
"If they can't hold themselves up, their hand is in the wrong place."
They shouldn't be trying to hold themselves up by using their partner -
that is what their legs are for!
"Then I place the gent's hands and point out to the ladies that if it's
uncomfortable they should tell the gent, as he probably won't know if
you don't tell him."
Absolutely, but you should also tell the men to let the ladies know if
it is uncomfortable. The ladies can be just as bad - I have met ones who
push, pull, lean, drag, lift, squeeze, strangle, clamp, grip, dig in or
hang off the man!
"Push gently against those pointy hands."
Why? The connection is through the man's right hand on the lady's left
shoulder-blade. Any tension you put into your other hands is wasted
energy, and prevents interesting variations and exits (see article
reference below).
Someone else said:
"The upper back remains essentially upright,"
Yes.
"but pressing into the hands wrapped around them."
Why? The man places his hand gently on the lady's left shoulder-blade.
They spin. Centrifugal force will generate some pressure at the
connection point. Why do you want any more? Pressing in causes
discomfort and is completely unnecessary.
I prefer to say gentle counter-balance rather than counter-weight -
changes the emphasis to be more positive.
The swing should be relaxed and the only tension you need to put into it
is the minimum necessary to overcome the centrifugal force. It is
dancing, not wrestling! :-)
There have also been lots of references to "giving weight". This is a
technical dance term, useful in a dance studio for certain dance styles
when there is plenty of time to teach what it really means; but it is
too easily misunderstood, resulting in people thinking that they have to
lean backwards or pull. I try to avoid the term.
I swing very fast and do countless variations of entry, swing-type, and
exit. But only if my partner is balanced and relaxed! Otherwise I go
for a slow swing and try to protect myself from injury.
For a much fuller description of how I teach swinging please see:
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk/Contra.html#swinging
And more about technique in the article below it:
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk/Contra.html#connection
If you like either of those articles and want to use them you will find
a downloaded PDF just below each article.
If you want to improve your twirls (as in Ladies' Chains) and swing
variations/entries/exits then you may find this article useful:
http://www.modernjive.com/history/tension.html
It was written for a different dance style, but the principles still
apply.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England <mailto:john@modernjive.com>
john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574
<http://www.modernjive.com> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive
Events, Instructional DVDs and Interactive Maps
<http://www.contrafusion.co.uk> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for
Dancing in Kent
I meant to post this to the entire list. Here it is.
- Greg
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From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Head Mikes and Mike Heads
To: Lewis Land <lewisland(a)windstream.net>
Lewis wrote:
I have to ask, what's the point of newcomers instruction if you're not going
to teach a few basic dance figures to the novices? I can testify from much
personal experience that some of those newcomers would end up standing
frozen, terrified, and immobile after the music starts if they haven't had
adequate instruction about the most common dance figures. I can only assume
that Greg calls to a much more experienced crowd, where there are more
seasoned dancers who can assist the novices.
Good question. The answer is an involved area which can't be addressed here
in any depth. But here are a few things to think about:
Whenever a speaker talks to an audience it is the nonverbal component of her
speech that has the greatest impact. Explicit instructions carry little
weight compared to the implicit messages in the speaker's demeanor, voice
inflection, tone, word choices, and actions. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once
said:
“What you are shouts so loudly in my ears I cannot hear what you say.”
As human beings we always look for hidden or implied messages in what others
say. This is a natural part of how we communicate. We look for implied
messages because they tell us what the speaker is really thinking, rather
than what the speaker wants to present as a public persona. This is how
cognitive frames are communicated and learned.
You cannot not communicate.
I don't want you to think I'm being critical or making too many
assumptions. But it might help to examine some of the implied messages in
your own comments. They are typical of most callers. Here are some
conclusions one can make about the mental frame you have activated
concerning first-time contra dancers:
- At least some first-timers are likely to be "frozen, terrified, and
immobile" at their first contra dance;
- First-timers need to have either a "seasoned dancer" to assist them or
separate "instruction" in order to avoid embarrassment or public failure:
- "Seasoned dancers" are not readily available and/or are not inclined to
partner with first-timers.
This framing, and these ideas, are common amongst callers. The assumptions
are that there will be many first-timers dancing together. Please put
aside, for a moment, your opinion about whether or not these ideas are
"true" and focus on the effect of these ideas upon those in the room who are
looking for your implied messages. If you "believe" these ideas then there
is no way you can conceal that fact from the dancers. None of us here is
that good at deception. Your nonverbal and implied meanings will be obvious
and almost everyone in the room will pick up on the implied messages and
respond accordingly.
The frame you have thus evoked in the brains of the dancers is, frankly, a
rather dreadful one. For first-timers it is a frame in which they may very
well fail and embarrass themselves in a public dance hall. Those who could
help them are not that inclined to do so and this is why newcomers need
separate organized instruction to reduce their chances of failure. Some of
them, nevertheless, will fail.
For your regular dancers the frame is also rather bleak. A small group of
"seasoned dancers" are encouraged to partner with first-timers and should
view this, not as an enjoyable experience, but rather as a duty. There is a
good possibility that their novice partner will fail, and the "seasoned
dancer" will then be a part of that. If you are not a "seasoned dancer" you
should probably avoid partnering with first-timers.
This is a self-fulfilling prophesy in action. Your expectations are being
projected into the hall because of the frame you have activated in your own
brain. How can you avoid this situation? The answer is to change the frame
in your own brain to one that will assume the success of everyone in the
hall. Assume that anyone with one night of experience dancing contras is
qualified to partner with first-timers and that you will make that an
enjoyable and successful experience. Assume that all of the regulars enjoy
partnering with first-timers who are confident and ready to learn. Assume
that all of the first-timers are fully prepared to partner with the regulars
without any separate training. Assume that you will call appropriate dances
so precisely and clearly that everyone will be able to dance confidently
after only one walk-through.
Making these kind of assumptions could be called delusional. It could also
be called leadership. It depends upon the frame you are activating. These
assumptions are not "true" or "false." It is about crafting a positive
vision of the regular dancers, the first-timers, and the entire evening and
projecting that vision into the room. It is about inspiring confidence in
others by assuming your own success. It is, actually, the only way you will
be able to accomplish your goal of calling well.
Now, back to your question. If you are successful at making the above
assumptions and if you are successful at adopting that frame about the
regular dancers, the first-timers, and your own calling, you will recognize
that teaching figures to the first-timers in a separate orientation is not
only a wast of time. It also sends negative messages to all of the dancers
in the hall. When you assume that all of the first-timers are going to be
partnered with regular dancers, you will know that teaching the figures will
take no longer than the time it takes for you to call out the name of each
figure. Actually, it is the regulars who will "teach" the figures--and they
will do it much more quickly and effectively than you could in any separate
orientation session.
Many of the comments and actions of callers are based upon expectations
about the dancers that are not positive. If you think the dancers don't
pick up on these implications you will not be able to call well. All
callers need to foster a positive view of the dancers in the hall. When
those assumptions are a part of your framing the situation will change and
the implied messages being projected into the hall will also change. This
is a powerful strategy to integrate the dance hall and to make your task as
a caller much easier.
Just a thought,
Greg McKenzie
When I teach a newcomers' session, I focus on feeling that connection
with the other dancers through shared weight. Generally we have 30
minutes scheduled but it takes enough time to get a quorum that I have
only 15-20 minutes to teach the basics.
1. stand in circle, hold hands, raise toes to feel that the other
dancers are helping support your weight
2. walk around the circle with slightly tensed arms, then noodle arms,
to convey the difference
3. face partner around the circle and practice feeling the same kind
of "positive tension" via allemandes (progress to new partner several
times)
4. swing demo with experienced dancer in the middle so all can see
that hands are on shoulder blades and right feet are lined up
5. if available, have trusted, experienced dancers go around to
correct what people are doing in their swings (I do the same);
progress several times; emphasize how to decline a fast swing by
dragging feet slightly or using a walking step, or saying "I'm getting
dizzy"; also emphasize hydrating and looking at a fixed point on the
partner's face
6. if time permits, line up for a contra dance and go over progression
with small circles rotating, then balancing, then passing through
7. if time permits, face across the set for ladies chain and R/L
through (explained as "only the ladies change places" or "both couples
change places"); this allows me to show the corkscrew twirl (with a
trusted, experienced dancer I know won't hurt me) and how either party
can decline a twirl
At the end of the teaching session I tell them they've passed Contra
Dancing 101 and it's time for a real dance.
I like to call a dance with a hey for #3 on the program so I can give
my famed hey tutorial.
1. take the place of someone in a set with otherwise experienced dancers
2. demo the hey with all weaving/looping
3. feign look of terrified new dancer, walk across in a straight line,
turn and come back while the others weave around me, emphasizing that
if you come back to where you started then you've done a hey
4. have the sets practice the hey once, then finish the walk-through
and progress so they can practice with a new group; I almost always do
two quick walk-throughs and then start the dance w/o rolling back.
Cheers!
-Marianne (Seattle)
Following up on posts by Greg and Michael, I, too, don't focus on figures. Careful
introduction of figures during the course of the dance allows new dancers to learn
gradually the vocabulary of figures.
More important than figures at such a pre-dance session is:
Welcome! We're delighted you're here!
followed by some tips that will help folks have a good time.
I try to keep the tone light, with lots of humor.
"At some point in the evening, probably near the start, you'll find yourself being
asked to dance by someone you don't know. You first instinct may be to protest,
'I don't know what I'm doing!' Believe me, they already know that. [inevitably
leads to a laugh from the dancers] That's why they asked you to dance. That's
how we all learned. No one in this hall was born knowing how to do this."
"It's possible that some of you are thinking, 'I don't want to ruin it for everyone
in the hall.' All I can say about that is that you must have a pretty strong ego,
to think that you have the power to ruin this for everyone else!"
"At some point in the dance, you may get completely lost. This happens to all
of us at some point. Here's my three-step guide for what to do when that happens:
Smile. Keep your head up and your eyes open. Hold out both hands like this. [demo]
That makes it easier for the folks around you-- your partner or your neighbor--
to help you get to where you need to be."
David Millstone
Lebanon, NH