Contra Callers February 2008

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by Rickey

Hi, I am wondering if you have any dances for low numbers of dancers (perhaps 6 or less), when most or all of the dancers are beginners and adults. I am also wondering if you have any dances (presumably different dances), that do not require choosing a partner and are good openers for beginner adults. Thanks as always to all, Rickey Holt.

2 years

Re: [Callers] Festival Applications

by robertgolder＠comcast.net

I can only speak with reference to calling at NEFFA, as I have never applied to DownEast. As some of you may know that Linda Leslie is NEFFA's program chair, I will note that the program chair does not select performers for contra sessions. Regarding NEFFA 2007, the following notice is now posted at http://neffa.org/perf_app.html - The Program Committee is not prepared to take your application at this time, since it is too late to apply for this year's NEFFA Festival. Please note that the application to perform is always available during the month of September, with a deadline in October. If you'd like to get an e-mail notice of application availability, send a blank e-mail to NEFFA_Performers-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com So you can note on your calendar that September is a good time to check the NEFFA web site, and also arrange for a notice to pop up in your e-mail. The NEFFA application invites you to come up with a briefly-described theme for your session, with a title of 20 characters or less. IMO, use your own judgment as to how important the theme is. If you are offering a concept that's really meaningful to you, don't be afraid to describe it. If what you really want to do is just call some hot contras, then IMO I wouldn't go overboard on the theme. Unlike Northwest Folklife, callers and bands apply SEPARATELY to the New England Folk Festival. And I believe that this is a very good thing for beginning callers who hope to have a chance at getting onstage. This mix-and-match policy gives a fresh perspective for experienced performers, and can be an eye-opening experience for newcomers who may get to work with seasoned veterans. I will never forget calling at NEFFA with Northern Spy, a band that has worked with caller David Millstone for 25 years. And where was David during this session? Out on the floor, happily dancing to the music of his own band. NEFFA's selection process made that wonderful hour possible for me. For what it's worth, the first year I successfully applied I asked for a "Festival Orchestra" slot, which means that instead of calling a themed, hour-long session I called two dances in the Main Hall with the assembled orchestra and then got off the stage as the next Festival Orchestra caller had a turn. IMO, the key here (as well as in submitting a session proposal) is to choose dances that you know by heart, can teach well, fully believe in, and love to share with a crowd. You don't want to have second thoughts as you approach the microphone. If you're wondering why performer applications are required so far in advance of a festival, note that NEFFA may have 1700 performers, many of whom perform in multiple sessions (perhaps performing alone, and with a participatory dance group, and also with a concert performance group!). You can't doublebook a performer (or larger groups to which she may belong), you have to give her time to move from one venue to another, plus a bunch of other scheduling etceteras that would drive me loony to contemplate further. How scheduling was done in the days before computers is beyond me. -- Robert Jon Golder 164 Maxfield St New Bedford, MA 02740 (508) 999-2486

4 years, 6 months

Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 2

by Martha Wild

If there are a lot of children, and no other contra dancers, for the first workshop, don't start with a contra. Start with something that breaks the ice and is easy and gets them facing each other in long lines. For my "one night stands", weddings, etc., I start with a dance sometimes called "The Hat Dance" - except I use a large stuffed animal gorilla, so people call it the "gorilla dance' - you know, three chairs at the top of the set, two lines on either side, one person sits in middle with gorilla on lap, one head of each line sit on the side, band starts up and plays like a house afire, mid person gives gorilla to one of the seated people, dances down set with the other in a sashay or polka or whatever they choose, gorilla receiver moves to mid seat, next two sit down. I don't know why this is so successful, but people love this dance. They love watching other people get or give the gorilla. I gave up on the hat idea because w. kids there may be head lice. Really. The gorilla is cuter anyway. This gets people moving, touching, laughing, and standing in two lines and learning top of set and bottom of set. Then follow perhaps with a reel, like Virginia reel. This gives a vague concept of progression and doing something different at different positions in the dance. There are some other simpler reels than Virginia reel as well, without the strip the willow but with the follow around and arch and under. I think the one of the easiest contras is Ellen's Green Jig. I don't have time to put it up here, maybe someone else could if you don't know it, but it's one where everyone pretty much is in contact all the time so it's hard to screw up, has just balance and swing, do-si- do and circles pretty much, and the progression is oh-so-obvious, and it doesn't matter if the genders get all screwed up as long as ones are ones and twos are twos. Oh, I called for a dance where 15 foreign exchange students showed up with limited English. I'd keep the calls in English as you are a beginning caller and it would be too much to think of to do it in Japanese as well. But just pick the way you are going to call the figure, e.g. Ladie's Chain - and NEVER vary it. It will always be Ladie's Chain, not "Chain the women", not "women chain" not "chain across" just flat out plain "Ladies Chain". People will catch on. Martha On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:00 PM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote: > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > callers(a)sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > callers-request(a)sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > callers-owner(a)sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Japan dance and self intro/update > (sharedweight.99.kyoto(a)spamgourmet.com) > 2. Re: Japan dance and self intro/update (Lindsay Morris) > 3. Re: Japan dance and self intro/update (Greg McKenzie) > 4. Re: Japan dance and self intro/update > (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) > 5. Re: Japan dance and self intro/update (Lisa Sieverts) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:59:28 -0700 (PDT) > From: sharedweight.99.kyoto(a)spamgourmet.com > Subject: [Callers] Japan dance and self intro/update > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Message-ID: <74363.4139.qm(a)web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > [n.b. this has been 'cross posted' to the yahoo traditional callers > list, in case anyone is on > both lists...] > > This post from a llooonnnngg time dancer and first time caller who is > requesting some advice for an unusual situation...but as it is my > first post, I will explain a little about myself, and along the way > that will explain the unusual situation and help guide and refine any > replies. > > My name is david crespo, a name some of you no doubt fear -- I mean > recognize -- or would (recognize, that is) (if you saw my ugly > mug) (well, maybe fear...) from my 20 odd (quite odd) years of > dancing and involvement in the dance community in New England, mostly > Vermont (Etna, Norwich, Thetford, to Northern Spy etc.) and Maine > (SMFA (Yarmouth), Falmouth, Bates, Bowdoinham...). As some of you > thus know, about 3 years ago, at a Wake the Neighbors Bates dance I > was met by a cute and not very frightening Japanese exchange student, > Yukie, who with a very little gentle nudging at Deffa a week later, > eventually (rapidly, that is) was able to parlay that happenstance > circumstance into what is now a beautiful and happy marriage. She > returned to Japan shortly after we completed our courtship and about > a year later I followed. We're living in Kyoto. > > Alas, there is one tragic note attending this otherwise joyous and > perfect scenario. Japan, you see, is a land thouroughly devoid of one > essential nutrient: contradancing. You can imagine my dismay, tears, > and lamentations. Sadly, then, since my arrival, I have been quietly > (well not so quietly) teaching english while secretly incubating evil > plans to conquer Japan, then Asia, then the world in 64 (drastic) > measures (hmmm--- good name for a dance). This month, my long patient > agony of waiting has begun to pay off. I have been given the > opportunity to indoctrinate a few trusting and innocent souls into > the sublime mysteries of la dance du contra and create an army of > swiftfooted robots, ready and willing to do my bidding at every call. > SOON I WILL CONQUER THE WORLD!!! > > ahem. > > please excuse me while my medicine kicks in. Ah, yes, thank you. OK, > where was I? The fact is, my wife and I have been invited to lead a > contradance workshop at a local festival on October 20. When we found > out, we began doing as much research as we could on calling and so > on. We found a few basic dances, like Baby Rose and Diane's Visit and > Atonement Reel that we like and figured would be suitable and we have > been practicing calling them. But I really welcome any suggestions... > > Actually, above and beyond some decades of doing things proper and > improper, I took a caller workshop or two from Rick Mohr (thanks > Rick) so I have a rough idea of what's involved. And I've learned a > bit from practicing calling and writing a few ad hoc dances on my > own. For example, I learned that being a dancer has habituated me to > act ON the beat, but as a caller I need to act BEFORE the beat, > eh....this flustered me at first. Are there any other typical first > caller pointers we should be on the lookout for? > > In addition, there are a few other associated circumstances in this > project that create the aforementioned unique situation. In brief > (HA! fooled you), since I've rattled on too long, here is what I mean: > > I don't speak more than the rudiments of Japanese. My wife is still a > beginner dancer, to wit, she isn't a strong enough one to call on her > own. Between us we are trying to teach each other what the other > lacks and hopefully make one good caller out of the two of us. One > question that has come up is is it better to keep the standard names > for the figures, or to Japanify them. (We are leaning to the > former...Japanese has a very high percentage of english loan words, > and they learn english (poooooorly) in school.) Still, has anyone > ever tried to call across a language barrier? > > Japanese are touch sensitve. They don't touch, they don't give eye > contact. They don't give weight. (They give wait). They don't hug. > They don't even say I love you. They are very shy. For example, I am > told that this is to the point that standing in a line of men facing > a line of women is likely be uncomfortable, even for the younger > generation, so Yukie feels we should use mixed couples with armbands > to distinguish "gender"--I mean position. As we build a community of > experienced dancers, it would be expected that some of this > inhibition might wear off...). You can see why they need to dance. On > the other hand, they are good followers. Any advice for working with > a shy crowd? > > Some or many of the attendees at this workshop, we just found out, > are likely to be children. Depending on the percentage, it may be > necessary to do a kids dance, or at least a dance kids could enjoy. I > am good at working with kids in general, but I would love any advice > for doing a dance with young people. I don't know or haven't been > able to find any children's dances, though I assume the Family Dance > in Yarmouth is still up and I plan to contact Jeff Raymond about it, > because I can't remember the caller's name (Nancy....) (though we > have danced and chatted about dancing and calling several times at > the May Day Festival...gads! say hi if you're listening..). > So, children's dances are one thing I am looking for. > > We are working in a small space...maybe two lines of six couples > each. Advice for small spaces???　 > > We are doing three workshops. If the same people return, we may do > more advanced things, or we may just repeat teh workshop...but I > would like to try different dances each time, for my practice. > > The room will be full of beginners, so no experienced dancers to rely > on. Ballroom dancing had a certain following here (and in Kyoto there > is a small set dancing group that we visited...small 14 or so... and > a square dancing group that we plan to visit. ) but not enough to be > helpful, in the sense that there are few cultural supports for > learning (i.e. in the US most everyone knows (even if they don't > admit it) how to at least fake a waltz or ballroom position...not > here.) Think martian territory... > > I should add that we are seriously working towards starting a regular > dance here (we've found an available and very suitable space, a > church hall in a nearby church, for example) and this is for us a > tryout and possible stepping stone. We want to whet people's > appetite, and leave them wanting more. We have a half hour to do it... > > OK...apologies for the verbose and windy post. Fond regards to all of > you I know, hajimemashite ("nice to meet you" in japanese, literally > "beginning") to the rest and many thanks in advance for your time and > help...cheers...david > > nothing rhymes with nostril... > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with > Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:23:07 -0400 > From: Lindsay Morris <lindsay(a)tsmworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Japan dance and self intro/update > To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Message-ID: <47029A9B.1020203(a)tsmworks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wow, you're biting off too much. > Teach them community-dance stuff first - circle mixers, easy > things to > get them used to touching, allemanding, and giving weight. > If they refuse to take hands and circle left, then I suggest you > fake a > heart attack and get out. > Lindsay Morris > Principal > TSMworks > [1]www.tsmworks.com > 859-539-9900 > > > [2]sharedweight.99.kyoto(a)spamgourmet.com wrote: > > [n.b. this has been 'cross posted' to the yahoo traditional callers > list, in cas > e anyone is on > both lists...] > > This post from a llooonnnngg time dancer and first time caller who is > requesting some advice for an unusual situation...but as it is my > first post, I will explain a little about myself, and along the way > that will explain the unusual situation and help guide and refine any > replies. > > My name is david crespo, a name some of you no doubt fear -- I mean > recognize -- or would (recognize, that is) (if you saw my ugly > mug) (well, maybe fear...) from my 20 odd (quite odd) years of > dancing and involvement in the dance community in New England, mostly > Vermont (Etna, Norwich, Thetford, to Northern Spy etc.) and Maine > (SMFA (Yarmouth), Falmouth, Bates, Bowdoinham...). As some of you > thus know, about 3 years ago, at a Wake the Neighbors Bates dance I > was met by a cute and not very frightening Japanese exchange student, > Yukie, who with a very little gentle nudging at Deffa a week later, > eventually (rapidly, that is) was able to parlay that happenstance > circumstance into what is now a beautiful and happy marriage. She > returned to Japan shortly after we completed our courtship and about > a year later I followed. We're living in Kyoto. > > Alas, there is one tragic note attending this otherwise joyous and > perfect scenario. Japan, you see, is a land thouroughly devoid of one > essential nutrient: contradancing. You can imagine my dismay, tears, > and lamentations. Sadly, then, since my arrival, I have been quietly > (well not so quietly) teaching english while secretly incubating evil > plans to conquer Japan, then Asia, then the world in 64 (drastic) > measures (hmmm--- good name for a dance). This month, my long patient > agony of waiting has begun to pay off. I have been given the > opportunity to indoctrinate a few trusting and innocent souls into > the sublime mysteries of la dance du contra and create an army of > swiftfooted robots, ready and willing to do my bidding at every call. > SOON I WILL CONQUER THE WORLD!!! > > ahem. > > please excuse me while my medicine kicks in. Ah, yes, thank you. OK, > where was I? The fact is, my wife and I have been invited to lead a > contradance workshop at a local festival on October 20. When we found > out, we began doing as much research as we could on calling and so > on. We found a few basic dances, like Baby Rose and Diane's Visit and > Atonement Reel that we like and figured would be suitable and we have > been practicing calling them. But I really welcome any suggestions... > > Actually, above and beyond some decades of doing things proper and > improper, I took a caller workshop or two from Rick Mohr (thanks > Rick) so I have a rough idea of what's involved. And I've learned a > bit from practicing calling and writing a few ad hoc dances on my > own. For example, I learned that being a dancer has habituated me to > act ON the beat, but as a caller I need to act BEFORE the beat, > eh....this flustered me at first. Are there any other typical first > caller pointers we should be on the lookout for? > > In addition, there are a few other associated circumstances in this > project that create the aforementioned unique situation. In brief > (HA! fooled you), since I've rattled on too long, here is what I mean: > > I don't speak more than the rudiments of Japanese. My wife is still a > beginner dancer, to wit, she isn't a strong enough one to call on her > own. Between us we are trying to teach each other what the other > lacks and hopefully make one good caller out of the two of us. One > question that has come up is is it better to keep the standard names > for the figures, or to Japanify them. (We are leaning to the > former...Japanese has a very high percentage of english loan words, > and they learn english (poooooorly) in school.) Still, has anyone > ever tried to call across a language barrier? > > Japanese are touch sensitve. They don't touch, they don't give eye > contact. They don't give weight. (They give wait). They don't hug. > They don't even say I love you. They are very shy. For example, I am > told that this is to the point that standing in a line of men facing > a line of women is likely be uncomfortable, even for the younger > generation, so Yukie feels we should use mixed couples with armbands > to distinguish "gender"--I mean position. As we build a community of > experienced dancers, it would be expected that some of this > inhibition might wear off...). You can see why they need to dance. On > the other hand, they are good followers. Any advice for working with > a shy crowd? > > Some or many of the attendees at this workshop, we just found out, > are likely to be children. Depending on the percentage, it may be > necessary to do a kids dance, or at least a dance kids could enjoy. I > am good at working with kids in general, but I would love any advice > for doing a dance with young people. I don't know or haven't been > able to find any children's dances, though I assume the Family Dance > in Yarmouth is still up and I plan to contact Jeff Raymond about it, > because I can't remember the caller's name (Nancy....) (though we > have danced and chatted about dancing and calling several times at > the May Day Festival...gads! say hi if you're listening..). > So, children's dances are one thing I am looking for. > > We are working in a small space...maybe two lines of six couples > each. Advice for small spaces???　 > > We are doing three workshops. If the same people return, we may do > more advanced things, or we may just repeat teh workshop...but I > would like to try different dances each time, for my practice. > > The room will be full of beginners, so no experienced dancers to rely > on. Ballroom dancing had a certain following here (and in Kyoto there > is a small set dancing group that we visited...small 14 or so... and > a square dancing group that we plan to visit. ) but not enough to be > helpful, in the sense that there are few cultural supports for > learning (i.e. in the US most everyone knows (even if they don't > admit it) how to at least fake a waltz or ballroom position...not > here.) Think martian territory... > > I should add that we are seriously working towards starting a regular > dance here (we've found an available and very suitable space, a > church hall in a nearby church, for example) and this is for us a > tryout and possible stepping stone. We want to whet people's > appetite, and leave them wanting more. We have a half hour to do it... > > OK...apologies for the verbose and windy post. Fond regards to all of > you I know, hajimemashite ("nice to meet you" in japanese, literally > "beginning") to the rest and many thanks in advance for your time and > help...cheers...david > > nothing rhymes with nostril... > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > __________ > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with > Yahoo! Autos. > [3]http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > [4]Callers(a)sharedweight.net > [5]http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > References > > 1. http://www.tsmworks.com/ > 2. mailto:sharedweight.99.kyoto@spamgourmet.com > 3. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html > 4. mailto:Callers@sharedweight.net > 5. http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >

15 years, 8 months

ricochet or push-back heys

by jean francis

I am looking for some dances with push-back or ricochet heys. I have only found one, by Adam Carlson: A1 N B+S; A2 Ricochet hey B1wave balance, partner swing B2 Circle 3/4 pass thru, new N DSD Heard of another called Tapsalterrie, but can't find. Also would appreciate instructions or web site for Levi Jackson Rose. Many Thanks! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

16 years, 9 months

My own Down East session

by Chris Weiler

Hello everyone, I have the opposite problem from Richard at the Down East Festival in March. My session, titled "Unbalanced Contras", was intended to feature smooth, flowing dances. The session has been scheduled opposite the dance medley. I'm concerned about the mix of the crowd that I will get in my session. Will I only get beginner dancers? Or are there experienced dancers that will come? I know that there are several veterans of the Down East Festival on this list, so maybe they can share their experiences if they called during this slot. I'd also like to hear from anyone who has ideas about dances that I could call. What are your favorite flowing dances? Maybe you think that I should only call wild, wacky and crazy dances to use another meaning of "unbalanced". 8^) Thanks for you help, Chris Weiler Goffstown, NH

16 years, 10 months

Re: [Callers] Waiting for Lefty

by crunchymama＠juno.com

Ha! Yes I'm right handed, so kept quiet. My mother is left handed, and my oldest boy. But I have been known to nurse a kidlet while calling. :o) -Alison Murphy "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." ~ James Madison HTTP://WWW.RONPAUL2008.COM -- "Chris Page" <chriscpage(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 2/6/08, Tepfer, Seth <LABST(a)emory.edu> wrote: > What about all the righties? Are all the people not speaking up right handed or left handed and not chiming in? > > I'm really curious about this now. This is fascinating. Probably because the group that feels they're in the majority doesn't bother responding because they feel it's a less interesting answer. I'd assume you'd get the same thing if you asked how many callers called while trying to manage a young child at the same time. Cheers, -Chris Page San Diego (off on the right) _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers _____________________________________________________________ Live your dreams. Click here to find information on becoming a lawyer. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigeohZ7i6YDZO1JvhVMp47zm3…

16 years, 10 months

Re: [Callers] downeast

by gtwood＠worldpath.net

Hi Chris I'll be at Downeast. If your going aginst the medly, sorry I'll be in the other room... that's the tough thing about festivals there is always to much to do and conflicting venues. Good luck with the workshop! See ya there. Gale -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting

16 years, 10 months

Re: [Callers] A Question About Nantucket Sleigh Ride

by David.Millstone＠valley.net

Gale's right that "ride the waves" is a common shortcut for the figure, but I also like to get into a rhythmic chant: Actives arch and the inactives under, Inactives arch and the actives under, Actives arch and the inactives under, One more time, and dosi do... (or "Ones arch and the Twos under" if that works for your crowd. The name "Nantucket Sleigh Ride" refers to whaling. After the sailors harpooned a whale, it often would swim off at great speed, pulling the small whaleboat behind it. David Millstone

16 years, 10 months

Re: [Callers] A Question About Nantucket Sleigh Ride

by gtwood＠worldpath.net

clicked out to soon (darn computer) Nantucket Sleighride is one of my favorite dances to dance and call! The "Ride the Waves" looks great from a high stage. (The arches resemble ocean waves thus the name) Beginners as well as experianced dancers seem to really enjoy the dance. (nuf said) Original Message: ----------------- From: Rickey holt.e(a)comcast.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:47:04 -0500 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] A Question About Nantucket Sleigh Ride Hi All, In B1 of Kirstin Koths' dance Nantucket Sleigh Ride there is a figure I will call "Arches". In this figure everyone is facing up and the ones, who are now below the twos, join inside hands, make an arch and walk forward, while the twos duck and back under that arch. Then the twos arch and walk forward while the ones duck under to place. My notes say to do arches twice. It would appear from the timing that that entire sequence - ones over twos under and twos over, ones under - is repeated twice. Is that what you remember? Rickey Holt Fremont, NH _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting

16 years, 10 months

Re: [Callers] A Question About Nantucket Sleigh Ride

by gtwood＠worldpath.net

Hi Ricky, You can teach it as 1s Arch 2s back through 2s arch 1s back through (2X) the traditional call after teaching the dance is "Ride the Waves" which is the whole arch sequence. It saves a lot of 'talk' during the dance. Gale Original Message: ----------------- From: Rickey holt.e(a)comcast.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:47:04 -0500 To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] A Question About Nantucket Sleigh Ride Hi All, In B1 of Kirstin Koths' dance Nantucket Sleigh Ride there is a figure I will call "Arches". In this figure everyone is facing up and the ones, who are now below the twos, join inside hands, make an arch and walk forward, while the twos duck and back under that arch. Then the twos arch and walk forward while the ones duck under to place. My notes say to do arches twice. It would appear from the timing that that entire sequence - ones over twos under and twos over, ones under - is repeated twice. Is that what you remember? Rickey Holt Fremont, NH _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange

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