Well put Jim!  I totally agree that dancer fun should be our main objective as callers. Or
programs should have variety or the dance form will become boring.  
Thank you Jim. 
Rich
On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:55 AM, James Saxe <jim.saxe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
  I'm finally feeling impelled to comment on this.
 
 The reason I include occasional squares at events billed as a
 "contra dances" is that I have personally had a tremendous
 amount of fun dancing them--much of it at events that included
 both squares and contra.
 
 I first got into the traditional dance scene in Pittsburgh, PA,
 in the early 1980s.  The events were mostly advertised as "square
 dances" but a typical evening's program might (or might not,
 depending on the caller) have included several contras as well.
 I believe most of the dancers enjoyed both.
 
 The squares I'm talking about, by the way, were "traditional",
 not modern western.  I'm sure there was an active MWSD community
 in Pittsburgh at that time, and probably there were a very few
 dancers who did both MWSD and "traditional" squares/contras, but
 it was for all intents and purposes a completely separate activity
 and community.  My intent in saying this is neither to disparage
 nor to praise MWSD, but merely to point out that anyone who cites
 anything about MWSD as a reason why contras and traditional squares
 don't/can't/shouldn't mix is engaging in a complete non sequitur.
 At the square dances I went to, we had no special attire, no
 need for separate lessons, and no recorded music.  [Yes, I know
 that not all MWSD groups require or even encourage the special
 attire, and that some MWSD events have live music, but going
 into more detail about MWSD here would be a digression from my
 main topic.]  The dances were every bit as open to the public as
 typical contra dances.
 
 As a new dancer, my experience of that mostly square-centric
 Pittsburgh scene was that it was as welcoming a community as
 I had ever encountered.  Dances were often followed by a
 well-attended gathering at a local restaurant, or occasionally
 by a house party where conversation and musical jamming would
 go on into the wee hours of the morning.  I don't think the
 community was particularly more or less eclectic than the
 communities of contra dancers I know of.
 
 I found that squares and contras each offered their own kind of
 fun.  These kinds of fun were different enough so that when I
 moved to California and found a thriving contra dance scene, I
 noticed after a while that I was missing the kind of exciting
 squares I had danced in Pittsburgh.  On the other hand, the
 kinds of fun and the skills involved in the two forms were
 similar enough IMO that a lot of the same people could (and,
 in at least in one community where I had danced regularly for
 several years, actually did) enjoy both in the same evening.
 
 In short, the reason I sometimes call squares at "contra" dances
 is that I believe they can add a special kind of fun to the
 mix.  I also believe that most other callers who mix squares
 with contras do so for the same reason--because they think
 squares can add a different, but not too different, kind of
 fun.  I'll freely admit that I, and other callers, haven't
 always succeeded in sharing this kind of fun with the dancers.
 present.  Certainly there have been times when I've chosen
 inappropriate squares for the circumstances, and times when
 I've ineptly taught and called whichever dance I've chosen.
 (I'm sure most of us have also had experiences from time to
 time with contras that were poorly chosen, poorly taught,
 and/or poorly called.)  What I bristle at are (a) implications
 that the fun I remember having with squares (including at mixed
 square/contra events) is a figment of my imagination (except in
 the sense that all fun and all memory are mental experiences)
 and (b) implications the I or other callers call squares out of
 motivations other than dancer fun, such as an abstract sense
 of duty to preserve historic traditions or some other notion
 of "making the dancers take their medicine".
 
 Regards,
 --Jim