An FYI…..Jacob also calls this dance “Fox Hollow Fancy”.  In the RPDLW syllabus from
2005….Jacob states that both titles are valid.  
Linda
On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
wrote:
  Hi Luke:
  
 You may be thinking of:
  
 Grand Square Contra        Jacob Bloom      4 x 4
  
 A1.      8          Lines forward and back
             8          Corner swing – form square
 
 A2.      16        Sides face grand square
 
 B1.      16        Reverse grand square
 
 B2.      4,4       Heads pass through, sides pass through
             8          Partner swing
  
 I don't see how you can have a grand square in a contra without it being a 4 x 4. 
But if you come up with a way, let us know - 
  
 Bob
  
 
  
 
  
 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:05:45 -0400
 To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
 Subject: [Callers] Grand Square in a contra?
 From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Several years ago (2013?) while at the fabulous DEFFA festival in Maine, I danced a
contra that had a grand square. I think it was on the diagonal.
 
 But that's about all I remember about it. 
 
 Anyone know the dance? Or can give me more of a lead like the caller or such?
 
 I don't think it was a 4x4. I'm not sure if it had the full 16 beats one way,
then reverse and 16 beats the other way; because that'd be half the dance...
 
 Now that I'm thinking about it, as a 4x4 with a full grand square and still following
somewhat typical 4x4 conventions:
 
 A1
 Lines of 4 go forward and back
 Corner Swing
 A2
 Grand Square: Heads start forward, sides split
 B1
 Reverse: sides start forward, heads split
 B2
 Option 1: Heads pass straight through, sides pass straight through; find partner
 Option 2: Pass new corner right, next left; find partner
 Option 3: Gents left hand star promenade with corner, ladies go ~1/2, turn back to
partner
 partner swing, face line of direction
 
 I'm now really confident it wasn't a 4x4 contra, but I still don't remember
what it was. Any help would be appreciated. 
 
 If I can't find it I may try it as a 4x4, but it seems like you'd be further
ahead with a simple square to have a little more variety than just grand square and two
swings...
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
 Luke Donforth
 Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com
 
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