15 Feb
2014
15 Feb
'14
10:59 p.m.
Drawing on my fine command of language, I say nothing.
On Feb 15, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Greg McKenzie
<grekenzie(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
Well, I think I have an answer to my question.
I have experienced this kind of thing before and it seems obvious where it
is going. It is also becoming clearer to me where it comes from.
I am saddened by this turn of events. The truth is that it is too
stressful to attempt to continue in this environment. I have enjoyed the
discussions with many of you and I will miss hearing your ideas. If you do
wish to contact me directly please do so. I would love to hear from you.
And I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
And if you would like to talk about the future of contra dance calling in
another forum please do contact me. Perhaps we can come up with a way to
do that. There is much, much to discuss.
My best wishes to all of you.
Greg McKenzie
grekenzie(a)gmail.com
1435 Myrtle Ave.
Coos Bay, OR 97420
(831) 325-7627
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Rickey Holt
<holt.e(a)comcast.net> wrote:
Greg,
I am afraid I fine it ironic at the very least, for you to call for a more
civil discourse. Your tone has been so denigrating and disrespectful of
others for so long that I too have been ignoring your posts pretty
regularly. That is easy enough. But when I read that a caller as well
established as Martha Wild has not posted for a long time because of the
treatment she received from you on this list, I am much more worried. Far
from encouraging an open exchange this is evidence that you have stifled
it.
As I remember it, folks posting here have tried to point this out to you
several times in the past.
Moderators,
I propose that Greg not be allowed to post here for perhaps a month. I do
not take such a step lightly and rather than suppressing free speech, this
would encourge it.
Rickey Holt
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[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Greg McKenzie
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Callers] A Call For Civility
Lindsay wrote:
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http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers Well, you might want to walk this one back,
then:
Alright. I only watched part of the first video. I didn't really note who
the caller was. And I certainly didn't mention any caller. (The names of
the callers were inserted into my post by a subsequent poster. I never
mentioned them.) I was trying to make the point that this was a group of
regular contra dancers, with few, if any, first-timers in the crowd. Since
there are no callers I know of who use structured calls regularly it is a
sure bet that these folks have had lots of experience interpreting
unstructured calls.
I seldom call for such experienced groups. Consequently I use structured
calls more than most callers do to maintain the confidence of newcomers. I
should have been more clear in my post, and I should have anticipated that
some folks might take it personally. I'm sorry about that. As a policy I
try to avoid taking anything posted here personally unless it has my name
on
it.
- Greg McKenzie
West Coast, USA
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Callers(a)sharedweight.net
http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > "The dancers in your video look like a
competent group of regulars
> who
are
> able to adapt to poorly-structured calls
quickly and graciously.
> I'm
sure
>> they have a lot of practice at it. I find it very productive to be
>> more diligent in my own calling."