31 Jul
2015
31 Jul
'15
1:23 p.m.
All, I had no trouble in the first two videos. The third one is definitely crooked. In the
second one there's accompaniment and that really defines the beat, so I wouldn't
think a band with a guitar, bass, or piano would be difficult for dancers to follow this
at all.
Martha
On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers wrote:
I, too, had no trouble hearing phrases of 4-beats,
8-beats, and the major parts. (In music speak: 2-bar phrases, 4-bar phrases, and 8-bar
parts.) I would have no trouble calling to either tune in that video. Thus, I'm also
curious about what makes it hard to hear, for those of you who have trouble with it.
~erik hoffman
oakland, ca
On 7/30/2015 6:52 PM, James Saxe via Musicians wrote:
After Emily Addison asked about the tunes in this
video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DkJQ9xNGuU
several people commented that they found the phrasing of
the jig (Jim Rumboldt's Tune) deceptive. I'm curious to
know what any of you--or other list members--think after
listening to it at 1.25x speed, as described in my previous
message (quoted below).
I did a little searching for other videos of the tune.
This one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx_E3qeZAfQ
is played at about 165 bpm. If it were played at a
normal contra tempo and with a clear four-beat intro, but
otherwise in the same style as in the video, I think it
would be fine for dancing. Yes, there are a couple places
where, if I started the video at a random point in the
tune, I could momentarily wonder whether a particular note
was a pick-up note or the true beat 1 of a new phrase.
But, to my ear, there are enough other places where the
phrasing is quite clear so that it's not a problem. I'd
be interested in reading other people's reactions.
I found another rendition starting about 3:15 in this
video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCnFlmrN1mk
with tempo in the high 140s. I can't make sense of
the phrasing in this one at all. It seems to me it's a
different, and genuinely crooked, variant of the tune.
Does anyone disagree.
After watching that last video, I tried searching for abc
notation or pdfs of sheet music or tablature to see whether
I'd find notation for different versions--straight vs.
crooked--of the tune. So far, however, I haven't turned
up any notation at all.
--Jim
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http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net On Jul 30, 2015, at 1:58 AM, James Saxe
<jim.saxe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm a mere caller and pretty much a musical muggle, but
here are some observations about the jig for what they're
worth.
First off, in the video the jig is played at about 93 or 94
beats per minute (based on my stopwatch timing, which also
appears to agree closely with the YouTube time counter).
You might get a better idea of how it would sound as a dance
tuen by playing it at 1.25x speed. (Click on the gear-shaped
"Settings" button near the lower right of the YouTube video
frame; then click on the Speed box (typically defaulting
to "Normal"); then click "1.25" in the menu that pops up.
YouTube should then play at 1.25x normal speed but with the
audio pitch-shifted back down to normal pitch.)
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