Wow..... love this post Joe!
So so so cool to hear about your experiences and thoughts over the years.
Really helpful. :)
Emily in Ottawa
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:30 PM Joe Harrington via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
The Tempo Question...enough to start religious wars,
so please let's tread
lightly in replies! There are regional/style, complexity, and agility
components. Dances in the northeastern US, simple dances called to
non-beginners, and dances with more agile dancers tend to go faster.
These are tendencies, not rules. There are plenty of slower-tempo dances
in the North that are sprinkled in among the high-tempo dances, but fewer
high-tempo dances (120 bpm typical) in the South. Flourishes are more
frequent and more complex in the South, which may account for the tempo
difference. The faster dances, no matter where they are, tend to be those
with more agile dancers, but fully agile dances in the South are often 115
typical.
I'm basing this on spending several years about 10-15 years ago counting
tempos all over the East Coast, trying to figure out why I found dances in
certain areas more fulfilling than dances elsewhere. Turns out that I get
a much bigger runner's high (dopamine/adrenaline release) at 120 than at
115. I don't know if that's everyone's experience or just mine, nor how
important a runner's high is for others. Of course, those Southern dancers
are quite happy and any problem is mine. And no, I don't have a file with
all the counts. It was an informal, unscientific study done as I was
dancing; I didn't write them down.
I've been instructed in workshops by Asheville callers that dance tempo is
115 and that more would send people to the sidelines. I've been instructed
by New England callers that it's 120 typical, with a few much-faster dances
that could be followed by resting dances down around 115 or so. That's
regional/style preference. And, yes, at least one Southern caller insists
on 120, for which I am eternally grateful! Again, these are tendencies,
not laws.
Some communities and some callers really prefer complex dances done more
slowly (sometimes much more slowly, depending on agility), and clearly
one's agility plays into tempo preference, especially when well into
physical decline, whether due to age or other factors. Very agile dancers
tend to like it faster.
Down here in Florida, most dances peak at around 115, with maybe one
faster dance done later in the evening. Some are even slower, though
that's been less common since the pandemic. The Southern location and the
large number of much-older dancers makes this a hard pattern to break, if
that's your goal.
Some dances have the "moral" goal of dancing slowly enough to include
literally everyone. But, they don't include me, or others like me. Sure,
I can dance at 105, but I have low interest in it. While that's a choice
rather than exclusion due to capability, it's just as effective. The dance
product I most want to participate in doesn't exist consistently in
Florida, and is rare in the South.
So, I decided to start a dance series in Orlando, where I live (visit
contraknights.org). The idea is to build a community around a dance
product rather than fitting a dance product to a community. My original
plan to have a student-oriented campus group and an inclusive in-town group
got us on our feet to establish the in-town group, but fell apart when some
experienced community dancers told the students how to behave and the
students decided as a group to stop coming to the in-town dance (some still
come, but it was about 10-15 before and now it's maybe 3-5).
I have had careful and detailed conversation with all the callers and
bands about the tempo strategy. The typical tempo should be 120, with some
variation. Do not slow down, even if dancers ask for it. Send them to me
if they persist. Yes, I expect some will not be interested in staying.
But, the energetic dancers we're trying to attract will not stay (or at
least won't come back) for slow dancing. Call dances simple enough to work
with that, with a lot of new dancers. Keep a positive attitude when
talking about it, and refer anyone really upset to me (I'd give them a
refund, but nobody has come).
The good news is that we've had over 40 dancers for the first several
events of the season! And, one of the callers did call fast, simple
dances, which people absolutely loved. However another caller asked the
band to slow down, despite my pre-dance instructions. I'm guessing their
simple dances were not simple enough and they didn't have simpler, so they
had no option but to slow it down, because the dances weren't working. The
band asked for clarification and I told them the caller is in charge.
So, that, in a (coco)nut shell, is my tempo saga, at least as it stands to
date. Is it possible to establish Northern contra tempo in
south-of-the-South Florida? The next episode is Friday, and I'm calling,
so we'll see how it goes.
I'm sure I've said things that some disagree with. Please be gentle in
replies.
Thanks,
--jh--
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:10 PM Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
We just did a caller-musician workshop where we
talked a lot about tempos.
Our conclusion was that the tempo can really vary with the dance. We
found a simple line dance like Gallopede/Virginia Reel might be danced up
to 125bpm with a young energetic crowd.... our typical speed for most
beginner-friendly contra dances is 115-117bpm, and an elegant contra with
lots of circling and weaving could go as slow as 105bpm.
A big learning for me was that our house band plays a lot of Irish Reels
- and these are so dense with notes that they tend to feel rushed if played
faster than 105bpm. It explained why we've had issues in the past, when
I've asked for a reel for a typical dance in the 115+ bpm range, and they
break out an Irish Reel , I keep trying to get them to speed it up, and
when they do it feels all jerky and wrong. (Plus they get exhausted!)
Kat K in Hfx
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