Donna,
I can imagine a scenario in which organizers would be shy to share this
information for fear of retaliation or pressure from those who want them to
change their practices. Having received such pressure, personally, I am
sure it will happen to others. I'm not saying all pressure to change is
bad, but that some people don't like being pushed. It is a (smallish) issue
around the term "gypsy" in my neck of the woods.
-Amy
On Jan 31, 2017 6:39 AM, "Donna Hunt via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
If we were creating a doc for attendance and opening it up to the "world of
contra dances organizers" to comment why not add some other categories that
we've been discussing?
Linda Leslie suggested the Organizers group might have stats. I'm
wondering if CDSS keeps any?
When Jeff replied to my query about LGBTQ dances and groups using
non-gender terminology I wasn't at all surprised to see the list (since I
know most of those groups), but I *was* surprised to realize that there
were no groups in other major cities throughout the country.
Topics that might be on the Doc:
Dance Organizations that use non-gender terminology
Dance Organizations that have considered but decided not to use non-gender
terminology
Dance Organizations that have decided to use a non "gypsy" terminology
Dance Organizations that have considered but decided not to use non "gypsy"
terminology
There could be a write in section where Dance Organizations could state
which terms they use.
I would request that the attendance be under 25, 26-50, 51-75, 76-100,
etc. Or even increments of 20. There are several small groups in this
country that survive with under 20 attendance and other groups where a drop
in 25 dancers means serious financial hardship.
Dave is concerned that groups might be wary about posting such
information. Are there groups represented on this list that might NOT
participate in this information gathering? Seems useless to even create
the Doc unless folks are willing to post the data.
Donna Hunt
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From: Dave Casserly via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Jeff Kaufman <jeff(a)alum.swarthmore.edu>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 30, 2017 4:12 pm
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What if we made a Google doc with more vague categories where dances could
self-report their attendance? Something like, a column for the state where
the dance is located, a column for 2015 average attendance, all done in
ranges of 1-50, 51-100, etc, and another column for 2017 attendance, with
the same ranges? I think that would be useful for purposes of knowing how
many dances are suffering declining attendance, and where those dances are,
but wouldn't give out enough specific information to make organizers queasy
about publicly releasing data.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Jeff Kaufman via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
For attendance, what I would love to see is dances
making their
attendance numbers fully public. Something like a googledocs
spreadsheet that anyone can view where you put in attendance numbers.
(I've advocated for this, internally to BIDA, for years
(unsuccessfully). We do have a sheet like this, but it's not public.)
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Linda Leslie via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
It may be that the Organizers’ List for Shared
Weight may have this kind
of
data.
Linda
On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
No, I haven't seen statistical analysis of this. Maybe it's worthwhile
for
this to be polled out to various dances.
Best regards,
Ron
On Jan 30, 2017 10:54 AM, "Donna Hunt" <dhuntdancer(a)aol.com> wrote:
Just getting back to this thread, lots to catch up on.
Jeff and Ron: You both seem like the statisticians here. Is there any
data
that reflects where in the country the LGBTQ
gender-free dances are and
where the communities that use gender-free terminology are?
Just curious.
Ron: When you say that local dances attendance is down is there data
about
that compared to dances where attendance is not
down? Again, looking for
information country wide or even geographic area.
Thanks
Donna Hunt
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