Does your dance group offer lessons before the actual dancing begins? We
offer a half hour lesson (though many folks arrive late and miss some
stuff) at the beginning of the dance to teach basic moves.
For a lesson I've found that starting with very simple moves (walking to
the beat, circle, allemande, do-si-do, etc.) and progressing to more
involved moves (swing, courtesy turn, right/left through, chain, etc.)
helps.
If I know I'll have lots of beginners I choose dances that are very simple
to start, then add only one new move with each successive dance.
I encourage experienced dancers to partner with beginners so they may learn
quicker.
As to using 4 beats per call: you don't have to get all the words out
before the move begins. For example, with a circle left 3 places you can
start on beat 7 and say, "Circle left," wait for a beat, then say, "3
places." They'll hear the "what to do" and start that, then they will
have
the head space to hear "how far."
I agree with Mac that you may be trying to teach dances that are just too
hard for the crowd to have success.
Also, if you can practice calling with a small group of experienced
dancers, say at a house party, you'll get the practice you need in a much
less stressful environment.
Best of luck to you.
-Amy Wimmer
Seattle
On Sun, Apr 13, 2025, 10:56 AM Mac Mckeever via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
You might be getting way to difficult for the crowd
you describe. Having
half experienced dancers is about the threshold for doing duple minor
contras.
I like to stick to dances that are harder to mess up. Circles, some
simple squares, scatter mixers, grand march, Virginia Reel, etc. Missing a
progression in a contra can break down the whole set.
You mentioned chains - I find courtesy turns are one of the hardest things
for beginners to figure out. I'd avoid them.
I have called many evenings without doing any contras. In groups with
lots of beginners - I build up to them and then carefully introduce some
with very easy progressions and where ending a swing on the correct side is
not all that important
Mac McKeever
On Sunday, April 13, 2025 at 12:01:40 PM CDT, Taco van Ieperen via Contra
Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi All,
I've been thinking a lot about calling for beginner dancers. I've seen big
changes in the last few years where our dances now often have more than 50%
newcomers.
As a relatively new caller. I have some observations and ideas, and I'd
love perspective from people who are more experienced.
Walkthroughs:
With experienced dancers, you can do an efficient walkthrough and teach a
figure in the context of the dance. With beginners, I've seen walkthroughs
fall apart because by the time you've explained a move and dealt with the
group that has gotten all scrambled, the dancers have completely forgotten
where they are in the walkthrough and where they started the dance. This is
leading me towards the idea of isolating new figures *before* the
walkthrough: If it's the first time doing a move, teach the move first, and
then do the walkthrough that includes this move. "This dance has a new
figure called a Robin's Chain. It works like this.... <chain stuff>. That
looks great. Now let's learn the dance...."
Also, with experienced dancers, people "get it" during the dance, so you
can do two walkthroughs and even if some people are confused ii will
straighten itself out. With new dancers it feels much more important that
everyone succeed in the walkthroughs because confusion can get worse
instead of better. But at some point you can't keep doing walkthroughs. My
gut instinct is that if I teach the figures before and can't explain the
dance in two walkthroughs then I need to get better at walkthroughs or
teach easier dances.
Thoughts?
Caller Style:
I really like making each call four counts as it provides
predictable rhythm to the calling:
1,2,3,4, WITH your | PARTner | BALance and | SWING
For some calls I can give the destination location, or the destination
person:
"Robins, Chain, Across the, Set"
"Neighbor, Dosido, to NEW, Neighbor"
vs
"Robins, Chain, To your, Partner"
"Neighbor, DoSido, Once and a, half"
To your partner seems more clear, but I can also see that having two
different people in the call could create confusion. Does one format work
better in your experience?
Related, I find the most annoying figures to call are 1.5 figures. There's
just no way to say
"New Neighbor Allemande Left Once and a Half" in four beats. Also,
beginners struggle parsing 1.5x as trading places, especially across the
set.
It seems like a lot of callers drop the Allemande and just shorten it to
"Left" or "Right". Which probably is fine after two clear
walkthroughs.
So, which do you prefer? Do you have other ideas?
Robins, Allemande, Left, Across
Robins, Left, to Trade, places
Robins, Left, Once, and a Half
Robins, Left, to Your, Partner
Robins, Do si, do, across
Anyway, just thinking aloud and curious what other peoples thoughts are.
Taco
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