This issue came up for me at a dance weekend just recently. My partner was dreadfully
uncomfortable situation with another dancer. A timely gender swap solved the problem.
Love this forum!
Bob Green
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On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers
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Maia,
Let me see if I'm correctly reading your goals:
You want to call dances with shadow swings
You want to minimize discomfort
To do both of those, I think an announcement after folks have lined up is worse than an
announcement earlier. If someone is uncomfortable with the idea of swinging a shadow, how
comfortable would they be leaving a line after you've made the announcement and
highlighting for everyone in the room that there's a problematic interaction?
There's no way to surreptitiously drop out; folks have to take new hands four and
identify new shadows. I think making the announcement after folks have lined up just puts
public pressure on your dancers.
You can announce it ahead of time, either at the end of the previous dance; or even
during the walkthrough of the previous dance. I know some callers do this for mixers:
"Alright, thanks everyone for lining up and taking hands four. Just so you know, the
dance after this will be a mixer. You'll keep your partner for this dance, but the one
after don't expect to stay with your sweetheart." etc. Andrea raises a good point
that it's hard to know where the shadow would be when you line up (or if someone lines
up after you).
Other options that come to mind:
Call these dances that are dear to you only in instances where it's unlikely to be an
issue. I.e. small dance communities where you know everyone and know it'll be fine; or
very large events (dance weekends, etc) where it's much less likely for you to run
into someone you have a bad interaction with. If you had a festival session called
"Shadow Dances"; then anybody showing up is probably going to expect that
they'll swing the occasional shadow.
As Ron suggested, you can modify the dance and say "and this move can be a
swing". Might defeat why you're trying to call the dance though.
Make it triplet-esque; in that rather than full long lines, you break folks into small
groups (10 dancers, etc) and run the dance for a short time. If there's a shadow,
partner, and neighbor swing, chances are you don't want to run the dance super long
anyway. You announce "find a partner and about 4 other couples for a special
dance" and folks can self select a little more. Smaller groups also let more
experienced dancers goof/chaos/play more with repetitive dances without throwing off large
portions of the hall (I consider a dance with shadow & partner swing, with or without
a neighbor swing; to have a high possibility of repetitiveness).
Hope that helps get you thinking about other options too. Have fun, and remember
we're there for the dancers to have a good time.
Luke
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Maia McCormick
via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hey all,
First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are problematic.
Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the conversation I want to have in
this thread; I ask that you respond to the question I'm asking and do not debate my
premise--at least not in this particular thread. This should help keep this thread on
track and hopefully reduce excess noise and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv.
Thanks!
Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to be able to
call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an uncomfortable position. Do
folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was
considering, at the beginning of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and
mentioning, "this will be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes,
do so now" (or something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the
idea is giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move (thereby
changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this method? Suggestions of
others?
Cheers.
Maia
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