Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?

My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a "Devil's Backbone" progression. I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong. Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the trad-dance-callers list: APPLE PIE QUADRILLE Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy) Four Facing Four Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002 Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance. A-1 Lines of Four, Forward and Back (Reminder - this is original direction!) (8) Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four): Star Right Once Around (8) A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half (8) Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four) Star Right Once Around (8) B-1 Partners balance and swing (16) B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to invert line. Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all face original direction and a new line of four. (16) Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive. End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing. Original dance: A-1 Lines forward and back (8) All do sa do opposite dancer (8) A-2 Centre four star right (8) All allemande left with partner x 3/2 (8) B-1 New centre four star right (8) All swing partners (8) B-2 Circle left all eight once round (16) C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line to face the next line (16) -- Alan On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote: I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance: 4 Facing 4 A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back middles star R once A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2 new middles star R once B1 Partner balance & swing B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places) Balance ring, partner California twirl So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two choreographers attributed? _______________________________________________ List Name: Callers mailing list List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/