Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 37, Issue 21

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Re: Please Correct A Pirate (Lisa Greenleaf) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:51:14 -0400 From: Chris Weiler &lt;chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org&gt; Subject: [Callers] when to abort a dance To: Shared Weight &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;46F9E542.1000707(a)weirdtable.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello everyone, Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made some choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized that it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough. Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a line "I don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and just ran the dance a little shorter. The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in a row with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner swing. I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it anyway. What do you think? Abort or deal with it? Chris Weiler Goffstown, NH http://www.chrisweiler.ws/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing &lt;winston(a)slac.stanford.edu&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] when to abort a dance To: Chris Weiler &lt;chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org&gt; Cc: Shared Weight &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;01MLSHX9KT92FP4SVF(a)SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU&gt; Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Chris wrote: What wastes as little as possible of the dancer's time? Bag it if it doesn't work during the walkthrough, but if it's merely a little infelicitous in the dance and you can keep it working by prompting, then running it long enough that it feels like a dance, but not as long as a *good* dance seems like a good choice. Depends on the crowd, and on where you are in the evening. If there are enough beginners, doing something like this can be a positive, confidence- building strategy. If there are too many sharpies in the crowd, you can expect joshing later. But you're really asking how to make judgments when your judgment's impaired (by pain or anesthesia or whatever). That's a harder question. -- Alan -- ====================================================================== ========= Alan Winston --- WINSTON(a)SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 ====================================================================== ========= ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:18:45 -0400 From: Robert Golder &lt;robertgolder(a)comcast.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] when to abort a dance To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;1b344666e77c5116fe3e7c28a6f83d19(a)comcast.net&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed It's extremely useful to have some dances thoroughly memorized. I would call something else if I knew what the "something else" was going to be (preferably using one of my can't-fail memorized dances), and understood why the new dance I selected was going to work better than my original choice. Otherwise, I'd just accept that the next couple of dances share some choreography, call them as well as possible, and move on. Whichever option you choose, decide quickly and carry out your decision with confidence. ... Bob Robert Jon Golder 164 Maxfield St New Bedford, MA 02740 USA 508-999-2486 On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Chris Weiler wrote: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:19:18 -0400 From: "Rickey" &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net&gt; Subject: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate To: &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: <000001c8002f$1672e2f0$020fa8c0@maxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi I have some more incomplete notes on dances. Hard as I try, my own notes don?t always make sense to me when I get to look at them. I very much appreciate the help I have gotten in the past. Here are questions on some more. If you know any of these dances I would appreciate you help again. Rickey Holt, Fremont, NH A Pirate?s Life for Me, author? (Duple Improper) A1 Neighbor Balance and Swing A2 Pass to a wave (men slide past each other into a wavey line of 4 across the set) ?????? Men Allemande Left to Partner B1 Partner Balance and Swing B2 Women Dos 1 ? Neighbor Gypsy (just a ?glance?) Progress to New Neighbors QUESTION: My notes on A2 seem incomplete Feet in Flight, Dale Rempert (Duple Improper) in A1 (4) Balance the ring (4) Ladies Roll neighbor GENT away with a 1/2 sashay (Rt to L) (8) Ladies chain to Partner QUESTION: I am not familiar with doing a roll away from a circle formation, and by the time dancers are doing a ladies chain, I expect that they are in a line. How and when do you have dancers transition into a line when you call this dance. QUESTION: I have the same problem in FORTY MOHR YEARS, Sue Rosen (Becket) in B1 Balance the ring Roll Away with a Half Sashay (Ladies or Gents Roll Away, depending on the version) Ladies Chain Pedal Pushers, Bob Dalsemer (Duple Improper) in A1 Gents Al? Left 1 1/2, Scoop Up Partner Star Promenade Butterfly Twirl QUESTION: What is the timing? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:02:30 -0400 From: David Giusti &lt;David.Giusti(a)oberlin.edu&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;f9ede9e910395.10395f9ede9e9(a)oberlin.edu&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 One of my favorite dances to call! It's a Pirate's Life for Me, by Nathanial Jack I got it from Nils Fredland's calling improper A1. N B+S A2. Pass through to a short wavey line/ocean wave* (4), Balance the wave R+L (4) Slide right (4), gents allemande left once (4)** B1. P B+S B2. Ladies allemande right 1 1/2 Neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 to new neighbor (actually 1 3/4, but who's counting) *everybody passes through across; ladies catch left hands, give right to neighbor in short wave -- ladies in the middle, gents on ends. **This is confusing during the walkthrough, since the gents actually have to slide past two people, unlike the usual wave balance/slide figure. As long as the gents allemande by the left hand, things will be fine -- you just have to make them beleive that's how the dance goes, really. -David Giusti ----- Original Message ----- From: Rickey &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net&gt; Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:19 am Subject: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate To: callers(a)sharedweight.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Black &lt;blackjunier(a)yahoo.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] when to abort a dance To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;425464.34200.qm(a)web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris, First off I'd like to say thanks for sharing the so called bad with the so called good. So I am not the only caller that has learning experiences, thanks for helping me not feel alone with this. Pardon my soap box. If you could do it over again what would you do different this time? The reason I say that is in August was a learning experience for me. Doing a walkthrough from the stage and it doesn't look right but I went with it anyway. Like you I ran it short and got on with the next dance. For me I would not call at the same monthly dance two months in a row nor saying yes when I really didn't want to call. For me I can't fake calling with enthusiasm. In this same dance, I tried a dance that I had walked through the dance during the break at another dance. I knew the dance worked but there was a glitch in the progression during the walkthrough. After a demo and one walk through, I canned the dance immediately. There was no way for me to recover this after the problem dance in the first half. See ya from the floor, Dan Black ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Weiler &lt;chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org&gt; To: Shared Weight &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:51:14 AM Subject: [Callers] when to abort a dance Hello everyone, Tonight I had a pretty bad gig (just a hint: don't schedule a dentist appointment for the afternoon before your gig). So tonight I made some choreographic goofs when choosing my dances. One dance I realized that it didn't flow as well as I would have hoped after the walkthrough. Should I have aborted and called something else? Tom Hinds has a line "I don't like that dance, let's do something else". However, he usually follows it by teaching the very same dance again. I stuck with it and just ran the dance a little shorter. The same thing happened a little later when I called two dances in a row with the sequence: ladies chain, ladies "x" once around, partner swing. I realized it during the walk through, but went ahead and called it anyway. What do you think? Abort or deal with it? Chris Weiler Goffstown, NH http://www.chrisweiler.ws/ _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:27:35 -0400 From: "Tepfer, Seth" &lt;LABST(a)emory.edu&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;6EEB8893AB79164AA2F130789B5306DD3839D1(a)DMZEVS1.Eu.Emory.Edu&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What's the story behind the name? Seth Tepfer Director of Administrative Computing Oxford College of Emory University seth.tepfer(a)emory.edu 770-784-8487 -----Original Message----- From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net [mailto:callers- bounces(a)sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of David Giusti Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:03 AM To: Caller's discussion list Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate One of my favorite dances to call! It's a Pirate's Life for Me, by Nathanial Jack I got it from Nils Fredland's calling improper A1. N B+S A2. Pass through to a short wavey line/ocean wave* (4), Balance the wave R+L (4) Slide right (4), gents allemande left once (4)** B1. P B+S B2. Ladies allemande right 1 1/2 Neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 to new neighbor (actually 1 3/4, but who's counting) *everybody passes through across; ladies catch left hands, give right to neighbor in short wave -- ladies in the middle, gents on ends. **This is confusing during the walkthrough, since the gents actually have to slide past two people, unlike the usual wave balance/slide figure. As long as the gents allemande by the left hand, things will be fine -- you just have to make them beleive that's how the dance goes, really. -David Giusti ----- Original Message ----- From: Rickey &lt;holt.e(a)comcast.net&gt; Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:19 am Subject: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate To: callers(a)sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:49:30 -0400 From: Lisa Greenleaf &lt;laleaf(a)verizon.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] Please Correct A Pirate To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Message-ID: &lt;095C724E-0247-4966-82CE-2B0C46DDB126(a)verizon.net&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Nathaniel's original ending: B2 Women Do-si-do 1.5 to face current neighbor. Gypsy neighbor right 1+ to progress to new neighbor. It's a little unusual, but it works. -- Lisa ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers End of Callers Digest, Vol 37, Issue 21 ***************************************