At the Ralph Page Legacy day last month, Chrissy Fowler did a session in
which she called dances as she called them at different times in her
career. In it, she talked about how, at one point, she and other female
callers were insisting on the term "women" because they weren't ladies, and
then several years later they were insisting on the term "ladies" because
that was understood to be the name of a role.
I can't give a year when it happened, but I do believe I remember a time
when at least some callers were making it explicitly clear that the terms
Gents and Ladies referred to roles, and anybody could dance either role.
Jacob
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 2:29 PM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I believe it’s in Myrtle Wilhite’s *Lullaby of the
Swing and other contra
dances, tunes, waltzes, and essays* (Madison, WI, 1993). I can’t lay my
hand on my copy at the moment, but perhaps someone else has one.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
*From:* Mary Collins <nativedae(a)gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2023 2:11 PM
*To:* Jeff Kaufman <jeff(a)alum.swarthmore.edu>
*Cc:* Tony Parkes <tony(a)hands4.com>om>; Joe Harrington <
contradancerjoe(a)gmail.com>gt;; contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
*Subject:* Re: [Callers] Re: Gentlespoons/Ladles (from Rompin' Stompin')
Jeff, me too...if you find it, share please.
mary
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who
couldn't hear the music." - Nietzsche
“Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning
to dance in the rain!” ~ unknown
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:58 AM Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Aside: does anyone have a copy of the "I am not a lady" essay? I'd be
interested to read it.
Jeff
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:54 AM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Joe Harrington wrote:
*> *When I started dancing in the late 1980s… Callers were taking the
revolutionary step of not calling "men" and "women" but rather using
"ladies" and "gents", to signal that switching roles was ok, since
nobody
referred to themselves as a "lady" or a "gent" in casual
conversation.
Where was this, Joe? And are you talking about contra callers (rather than
ECD)? I can only speak about the NYC area in the 1960s and early ’70s, and
New England starting in the late ’60s and continuing to the present. In
both regions, square/contra callers (contras were a subcategory of square
dance until around 1975) universally used “gents/ladies.” (I believe ECD
teachers have always used “men/women,” presumably emulating Playford and
Cecil Sharp.) AFAIK, northeastern callers pretty consistently used
“gents/ladies” until some of them started to move away from gender-related
terms. Tolman and Page’s *Country Dance Book* (1937) uses “gents/ladies,”
as do most of the other standard American dance books from the 1900s to the
1950s (a few, aimed at schoolteachers, use “boys/girls”).
I know of no region where callers changed from “men/women” to
“gents/ladies.” I know that some callers, beginning I think in the ’80s,
changed from “gents/ladies” to “men/women,” feeling that “gentlemen” and
“ladies” smacked of classism. (One female caller, in an essay titled “I am
not a lady,” requested that other callers not use her contra compositions
if they adhered to “gents/ladies.”) As an amateur (= lover) of dance
history, I would like to know about past changes of which I was unaware.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(available now)
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