[Callers] Re: [External] Re: New dances: Set and Link Contras

Brooke has a dance called "Belle Meade Branle" which does exactly that. It is smooth. Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his) Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center [cid:07de4b7f-009e-4837-9b80-92db60af7341]<https://outlook.office.com/boo… Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/SethTepfer@mscloud.emory.n… ________________________________ From: Angela DeCarlis via Contra Callers &lt;contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 11:08 AM To: Jerome Grisanti &lt;jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com&gt; Cc: Julian Blechner &lt;juliancallsdances(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; Harris Lapiroff &lt;harris(a)chromamine.com&gt;om>; Contra Callers &lt;contracallers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: [External] [Callers] Re: New dances: Set and Link Contras Hello all! I was combing through some emails I'd intentionally left unread and found this. Did any of you nerds ever iterate on or test out other choreographic ideas with this figure? I especially liked Harris's idea about Set and Link -> Long Wave. Ang On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 11:22 PM Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: I could visualize that a set & link followed by a hey could have good flow, especially if the people who are not the first to cross the set cast to their original starting place before crossing. Jerome Grisanti On Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 9:23 PM Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: Thinking more about this, it cool be better if the next move is walking, like, a rollaway doesn't flow as good to, say, a star, than this could. Eh? Best, Julian On Sun, Nov 17, 2024, 3:07 PM Harris Lapiroff <harris@chromamine.com<mailto:harris@chromamine.com>> wrote: Embarrassingly when I wrote these I hadn’t really considered that it has more or less the same effect as a rollaway! (Andrea Nettleton pointed out the same to me.) I do think it having a feeling more like a Petronella is one difference, but I’m musing on what else there is to it besides novelty. One thing I’m wondering is, if the person on the inside track just turns halfway, they can get into long wavy lines. Not sure without testing if that would feel satisfying or not! I’ll have to write another and do another living room test 😅 Best, Harris On Sun, Nov 17, 2024, at 2:07 PM, Julian Blechner wrote: Harris, Thanks for raising this topic. I'm curious the differences in momentum and such that will allow this to have different moves following it, compared to a rollaway with 1/2 sashay. I like your first example, because following it with a balance and Petronella spin may be more cohesive percussively that another way for people to just trade places. Have you other thoughts in mind about this? In dance, Julian Blechner He/him Western Mass On Sat, Nov 16, 2024, 2:45 PM Harris Lapiroff via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: I think I slightly miswrote the choreo in my description of a set and link. I believe it's actually the Larks who go through the middle and Robins go around the outside. On Sat, Nov 16, 2024, at 2:32 PM, Harris Lapiroff via Contra Callers wrote: I wrote this up as a blog post<https://chromamine.com/2024/11/set-and-link-contras/>s/>, but I also thought this list would appreciate it and have interesting thoughts to share. It occurred to me recently that I don’t think there are any contra dances that feature a set and link figure. This is a figure from Scottish Country Dancing which follows this sequence (assuming becket formation for this write up): 1. Couples face the other couple across the set, taking convenient hands with their partner along the side 2. All balance right and left (4 beats) 3. All turn over their right shoulder as they trade places along the side of the set with the robins going through the middle and larks going round the outside (4 beats) It could be thought of as a petronella twirl for two or, perhaps, as a mad robin halfway with twirling. If none of those descriptions work for you, there’s also a video of the figure in action<https://youtu.be/hI-ebAspZzY?si=gkIDl8WmCzFc5HO4&t=16>. (Note the video is to a leisurely Scottish strathspey, but it can be done to a jig or reel at contra tempo just fine.) I decided to write a couple: Set And Link Contra Harris Lapiroff Becket CCW A1 Set and link (trading with partner) Balance the ring Petronella twirl A2 Neighbor balance and swing B1 Set and link (trading with neighbor) Balance the ring Petronella twirl B2 Partner balance and swing Note A1: Each time through after the first, the set and link should start with a big balance to the right to progress to new neighbors And a slightly more complex, but still accessible, one: Broken Link Harris Lapiroff Duple Improper A1 Neighbor balance and swing A2 Set and link (trading with neighbor) Robins alle L 1½ B1 Partner right shoulder round Partner swing B2 Circle left 3 Pass through up and down Next neighbor DSD Note: Can also be done in becket by starting with B2, skipping the pass through, and changing to a slide left progression at the end. I danced these through with a few dancers in a living room and they worked. I was worried the “Set And Link Contra” wasn’t appropriate for any crowd, being too simple and repetitive for an experienced dance but too tricky for beginners. Some of my test dancers agreed, but others thought that it was satisfying enough to dance to work – which I could see maybe working for a late evening brain-off-dance-trance vibe. A few open questions I have about these dances: - In “Set And Link Contra,” is the big balance right to progress satisfying or awkward? We didn’t have enough dancers to test the progression. A different option might be to make it Becket CW and slide left, then balance back to the right. (I suspect slide right, balance right would feel too muddy.) - The balance right and then left sequence isn’t natural to contra dancers. Is there a way to lead into it that makes it more natural? (Notably: a couple of my test dancers had done at least a little Scottish and they both liked it, but one dancer who had only done contra found it awkward.) - Alternatively is there a different way of doing that balances that would be more at home in a contra? I think balancing together and away wouldn’t give good momentum into turning over the right shoulder, but perhaps balancing in and out in a ring would work? - In “Broken Link,” I’m still not sure if the set and link into a robins left hand allemande sequence feels good. When I tested it myself it felt flowy in a weaving sort of way, but some of my test dancers reported it was awkward. We didn’t take time to workshop it to see if the flow felt better once the set and link was more familiar. _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net> _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net> _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net> _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net>