19 Sep
2013
19 Sep
'13
8:56 a.m.
Hi everyone, Here's another thing I often say from the stage. It applies to end
effects but other times as well.. "If you aren't sure what to do and someone
comes towards you who looks like he/she DOES KNOW what to do,... GO WITH IT!! and
you'll probably be OK"
As Erik points out, dancers who start the walkthrough in the middle of the set rarely
remember what was said about end effects by the time they get to the end. I often will try
to tell the dancers that I am talking to those people (in the middle of the set) too, but
I suspect what they hear is, "blah blah blah".. Often times it can get
"messy" at the ends which offends my sense of "order and perfection",
but it usually works out OK..
bill
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:18:35 -0700
From: erik(a)erikhoffman.com
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] End Effects
There have been a bunch of discussions on end effects off and on.
I like the calls Paul mentioned below, that you can use for when people
are out and in, etc. So, I'm pretty dang sure I'll use the "stand where
you land" call, and that "for those who can," too.
As far as understanding and teaching end effects goes, I think it's
important for callers to understand end effects. But teaching is
usually not too productive, by the time dancers get to the end, they
often don't remember any of those things. I mean, I've spent many times
at dances saying, "When you get to the end, stay there, wait 8 beats,
and you're in!" only to watch most couples think "we're out, might as
well go look at the band or walk around or swing or something," and be
totally in the wrong place. The going out and in: it's such a short
moment in a long moment of dance.
My basic thing is to say, "Go To Where The Dance Need You To Go, " and,
if the effects are serious, run around with a wireless mic and help
people through it...
~erik hoffman
On 9/18/2013 9:46 PM, Paul Wilde wrote:
Kalia,
Last month @ Pinewoods George Marshall was calling the afternoon
contra sessions @ E & A. Lots of fun & really interesting dances.
On some of the beckets, where the cpl out at the end (whether partners
or neighbors) needed to stay right where they are, he taught/called,
'stand where you land'. I think diagonal chains or pass thrus would
usually put the cpl out in this position. Another nice call for end
effects for cpls who are not involved w/ a diagonal move (etc.) is,
'for those who can'.
If the dance has a very unusual series of end effects, I try to
analyze the scenario the end cpls are experiencing, then synthesize it
into the most helpful but pared down advice that will alert dancers to
at least what sorts of things to be ready for. This may not require
telling them every little pc, as it may differ slightly for top and
bottom cpls, depending on even or odd # of cpls in the line.
More specific example provided upon request. Would love to hear what
others have to say on topic.
hugs around,
Paul
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