Rereading your original post I can't see how I was confused about whether
three-face-threes and triplets-without-contra-corners were two separate questions either
and yet I wrote a response with three-face-threes without contra corners or swings.; (To
be fair, I was really whacked after a three hours calling ECD, three hours dancing contra,
four hours overall driving, the return trip entirely in the rain (yay! but wearing).). So
no lack of clarity on your part - I p;robably just shouldn't have been sending email
in that state.
Here's an ancient 3-face-3 contra I wrote on the fly back with gendered roles on a
night when we had many more men than women and the men weren't dancing together, so I
asked each woman to find two partners and line up in the middle. It worked well in these
conditions and I haven't called it since; I think it's kinda zesty . It's not
ideal as you only swing people in your own threesome (middle with each end, plus basket
swing). The swing is more like ceilidh protocol because you finish on the side you
started - but it would be fab if everyone was prepared to swing in either role; then you
would change places and have a new person in the middle each time.]
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=12198
(Later I wrote one where the center people swing all four non-center people in turn, but
never had. a chance to try it out.)
Also, I love love love Walpole Cottage with the super contra corners, but no swings.
-- Alan
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From: Louise Siddons <lesiddons(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2022 12:18 AM
To: Winston, Alan P.
Cc: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] 3-facing-3 dances / triplets w/o contra corners
Thanks to everyone who has replied so far; I’m compiling a list to share with workshop
participants (some of whom aren’t on here), and can share it Aug the list as well if it’s
of interest.
Some quick replies to Alan’s points.
On Nov 7, 2022, at 11:51 PM, Winston, Alan P.
<winston(a)slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
Somewhat puzzled by parameters of the question. It's an arbitrary distinction but
I've only encountered "Pleasure Vest" in ECD dances here so that's how I
thought of it.
If the puzzlement is about genre then yes, you caught me. I’ve already completely absorbed
the UK’s lack of hard distinctions between contra and ECD and this didn’t even occur to
me. Having said that, there are “contra” triplets (and other dances) without swings
because Americans also used to have more diversity in their contra dancing, as has been
rehearsed on this list and elsewhere many times. And I have no idea how Colin would feel
about it, but I have taught/called the Pleasure-Vest to tunes other than the one he
suggests because it’s a square contra tune and plenty of other tunes work beautifully.
Which is also a bit of a British attitude!
Also are you asking for both unclear on whenther
you're asking for both threesome Sicilians and three couple set dances.
I thought I was clear by saying “and another question that came up,” but yes, we are
looking for both. Although 3-f-3 could be longways as well as Sicilian.
Louise.