All of the zig zag dances I can think of end with something where the
timing can be "squishy".  (ie, Cows are Watching: Gents Allemande, P Sw;
Leave the Wine: N DsD, previous N Sw).  As you said in your original post,
the timing can be slightly different in different dances. That being the
case, I think a Do si Do or Gypsy with the new neighbor might make the
dancers more likely to be able to be successful.  For experienced dancers,
the balance happening late can feel really unsatisfying, but it isn't
nearly as noticable with a move that has a smooth transition.
Jack
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
  Hello folks,
 Thanks for all the insight on Grand Marches. It was a very fruitful
 discussion for me, so I'm going to toss another question out there.
 What timing do you like for zig and zag the set? The (uncommon) move where
 you and someone else (usually partner) move out to one side and slip behind
 the couple you were facing to face a new couple, and then possibly do it
 again where you keep going and then cut back to face a 3rd couple (double
 progression).
 I've got dances in my box that have a zig and zag in 8 (single
 progression) like Bill Pope's "The Cows Are Watching"; and I've got
danced
 in my box that zig-zag-zig (double progression) in 8, like Rick Mohr's
 "Leave the Wine".
 A couple of the zig-zag dances I've seen do the zig and zag in, pairing it
 with a circle 1 1/4 or such (Will Mentor's "Frock's Rocking Frolic").
 I've danced and enjoyed all of these dances, or they wouldn't be in my
 box, but it seems a squishier move on timing than most; so I'm curious what
 people think about it; and/or what they ask for the band when calling one
 of these.
 This came up for me when I was playing with a new (I think) choreography.
 I put forth two possibilities drawing inspiration from Linda Leslie's
 Winter Storm and Bill Olson's 20 Below (side question, which one came
 first?).
 Becket, double progression cw
 A1
 Circle Left 3/4
 With Partner, zig left, zag right past a couple, zig left to face another
 new couple
 A2
 New Neighbor Gypsy and Swing
 B1
 Men allemande Left 1 1/2
 Pass Partner Right to start 1/2 hey
 B2
 Partner Gypsy and Swing
 Becket, single progression cw
 A1
 Circle Left 3/4
 With Partner, zig left, zag right to face new couple
 A2
 New Neighbor balance and swing
 B1
 Men allemande Left 1 1/2
 Pass Partner to start 1/2 hey by Right
 B2
 Partner Balance and Swing
 And for those of you who have stuck with my rambling this long, I'll toss
 another one out there:
 Becket, single progression, ccw
 A1
 Circle Left 1 1/4
 with Partner: Zig left, zag right to face new couple
 A2
 New Neighbor balance and swing
 B1
 Promenade across set with Neighbor
 Women Do-Si-Do 1 1/2
 B2
 Partner Balance and Swing
 If I had enough dancers, I'd just medley them; using the double
 progression every other time so you'd always see new faces... no, wait,
 that's a terrible idea.
 Thoughts or experience?
 Thanks again!
 --
 Luke Donforth
 Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
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