It's also true that the "mild confusion" goes back to the caller/teacher -
if the caller can teach the move simply and clearly, there will be no confusion even if
the move is new. I love pushing the envelope and helping new and slightly experienced
dancers realize what they can do on the dance floor!
Dorcas Hand
Houston
-----Original Message-----
From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net [mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf
Of Martha Edwards
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:05 PM
To: Caller's discussion list
Subject: Re: [Callers] Standardzation vs. Stagnation
Agreed! Interestingly, you can actually "get used to" a dance (or a life)
filled with novelty. People who are used to having dances with lots of new
things in them get upset when you do all glossary dances.
M
E
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Mark Hillegonds <mhillegonds(a)comcast.net>wrote;wrote:
Hi all,
I'm starting a new thread to respond to Greg's comments below. This post is
not about whether Greg's approach is right or wrong. If the people who
attend his dances are happy, then that's what really matters for Greg and
his dancers.
I'd like to broaden the discussion to a more general idea of avoiding "mild
confusion" and not pushing dancers beyond that comfort zone.
I've noticed that when I have trouble calling, it's almost always the
perpetual beginner dancers who complain about doing something new. They
aren't able to see beyond their own limited abilities. I once called for a
community who was used to dancing only certain moves and to a few local
callers. I was almost thrown out for having the audacity to have the men
start a hey. This community was so ossified it was no longer open to doing
anything outside of its normal routine.
New dancers don't know that this move is considered easy and that move is
considered hard. They don't know what they should or shouldn't be able to
do. I'd argue that the primary reason they're at the dance in the first
place is because they want to do something different than the same ol'
thing
they usually do. They're looking for new and interesting challenges.
It's my opinion that dancers need to "exercise" their dancing bodies and
brains, much as one exercises one's muscles. If we don't push ourselves a
little, as callers and dancers and organizers, then we and our communities
will atrophy.
Mark Hillegonds
cell: 734-756-8441
email: mhillegonds(a)comcast.net
-----Original Message-----
From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Greg McKenzie
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Caller's discussion list
Subject: Re: [Callers] Borrowing call terminology from modern square
dancing
I think standardization is a good thing, in all forms of engineering.
Personally, I stick to calling dances that require only a small set of
standardized figures. My goal is to keep this art form available to the
most people possible. I know that I, personally, would not have kept
dancing contras if a lot of new calls had been thrown at me every time I
attended. My goal is to keep that venue open to the general non-dancing
public.
So I would not use the call. I have a number of dances in my collection
that I no longer use because they contain calls that could cause "mild
confusion" for some dancers. Of course, almost all of the dances I call
are open to the general public.
- Greg McKenzie
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