Flirting - I try not to suggest that
Name - not worried what we call it
Suggestion - I sometimes call it 'eyeballs'. It works well.
--
Michael Barraclough
michael(a)michaelbarraclough.com
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From: Martha Wild via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Reply-to: Martha Wild <mawild(a)sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Advice about "gypsy"
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:36:40 -0700
I can see from this discussion that there is definitely merit in giving
this move a different name, though I had never thought of it as a
derogatory term before. I rather like the idea suggested in a previous
post of "eddy" because it is short and to the point and sounds different
from other calls. "Walk all around your neighbor/partner" is fine for a
walkthrough and as a description, but not very good for a quick reminder
when you'd rather be calling a lot less.
Another move that one would have to rename is the "gypsy star". I have
personally always called the move "gypsy star" as "star wrong" -
mostly
because if I say "gypsy star" there is always at least one couple in the
crowd that starts to gypsy and swing (eddy and swing?) instead of doing
the star. "Star wrong" is also short and to the point and emphasizes the
oddity of the star - two people backing up and two going forward. It
seems to get the job done.
Martha
On Oct 24, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
In square dance, the call "walk all around your
left hand lady" is
very close to a right shoulder gypsy, and "See Saw is a left shoulder
walk around. A left shoulder Dosido is no longer called a See Saw,
but a Left Dosido.
Walk all around your nieghbor or partner, and see saw your neighbor or
partner, may be able to replace the gypsy without generating any new
terms.
Rich
Stafford, CT
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Richard Hart via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I always describe a gypsy as being just like a dos à dos, but
face to
face, instead of back to back.
As that is the case, why not use French again. As "dos à dos"
means
back to back, why not use "face à face" which means face to
face?
Pronunciation would probably be difficult for those who don't
speak
French, so it would probably become "facey-face" for many.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Don Veino via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Before I respond directly, I ask that all of us
posting what
I expect to be
many replies to trim post quotes to just the
pertinent bits
(particularly
those reading the "digest" version).
....
Curiously enough, I'd raised this naming
issue with a group
of callers (and
dancers glommed on) at a house party recently. An
area
caller had tried
rebranding the Gypsy as an Orbit, which this
group rejected
due to the
existing usage & meaning for that term. One
participant was
of Romani
heritage and expressed pride at the existing term
and
satisfaction at it
being used for such a nice dance move and would
feel loss
were it to be
renamed. I don't mention this to make excuses
for anything
that might offend
but rather to show that there are many possible
perspectives. I'd since
thought of other possible names and came up with
these:
Swirl - gentlest, unfortunately similar to "twirl" in sound
Cyclone - too "violent", encouraging abandon?
Vortex - distinct in sound, 2 syllables and short when
spelled out.
Sorry you find yourself in this situation. We know your
actual intent was
to
bring happiness, not offend.
-Don
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