[Callers] Re: [External] Re: Choreographic No-Nos

Jeff, impressively bad, well done! My biggest pet peeve is a RH chain (or promenade, or other move with a CCW courtesy turn) into a circle L—though this is a very of-the-moment style preference, as I know plenty of the classic dances have this combo. (Likewise for dances where just the 1s do a figure while the 2s stand around, doubly so if the dance doesn’t alternate active couples.) Long lines followed by a chain is quite idiomatic—and probably in part because of the strength that idiom, a chain (or other courtesy turn figure) followed by long lines drives me up a wall. I don’t love long lines into a circle—I’ll tolerate it if the rest of the dance is really exceptional, ehhhh. -- Maia McCormick (she/her) 917.279.8194 On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:31 PM Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers < contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: > Balance neighbor (4), swing partner (12) > > Ones dosido below while twos seesaw above (8). > > Long lines forward (4), swing on the side (8), long lines back (4). > > Circle left 1x (6) pass through (2) > > Jeff > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 9:51 PM Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers < > contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote: > >> >> - A right chain INTO a swing >> - A swing into a circle right >> - Standard right shoulder hey into a swing >> >> >> Plenty other bad flow examples >> >> >> Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his) >> Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center >> >> <https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/fcd3f5d71da848759228584d1a49babd@emory.edu?anonymous&ep=signature> Book >> time to meet with me >> <https://outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/SethTepfer@mscloud.emory.net/bookings/> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers < >> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; >> *Sent:* Monday, August 5, 2024 9:48 PM >> *To:* New Contra Callers List &lt;contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; >> *Subject:* [External] [Callers] Re: Choreographic No-Nos >> >> I don't agree with your list. Yes, swings on the first half of a >> phrase are challenging and I might try to avoid them. There are dances >> with this that generally work fine, especially if the caller is aware of >> the potential issue and teaches and calls accordingly. The do-si-do across >> can be a bit awkward in a crowded line, but only if everyone is doing the >> do-si-do. If only the 1's or 2's are doing it then there is no problem. >> Shadow swings seem to be a personal preference or dislike and not really a >> choreographic issue. I actually think that a right chain after a swing can >> work very well. If you end the swing with the pointy hands pointing across >> then the right hands of the right hand dancers are right there ready to >> pull by. I suppose you might say there is a momentum change, but that can >> be very welcome in a dance where everything seems to be traveling the same >> way. Not every dance has to have continuous motion in the same direction >> all the time. I danced a dance with that set of figures just last Friday >> and I was thinking to myself how well it seemed to work. >> >> So I see #1 and #3 as more of a challenge than a problem. #4 is a >> personal preference and #2 seems like a perfectly fine transition between >> figures. >> >> Jonathan >> >> On 8/5/2024 7:37 PM, Michael Fuerst via Contra Callers wrote: >> > I am accumulating a list of figures, or figure sequence that >> significant dance writers (not necessarily a majority) consider >> Choreographic No-Nos >> > My list so far: >> > 1. do-si-do across >> > 2. right chain after a swing >> > 3 short swings on an odd phrase >> > 4. Shadow swings >> > Does anyone have further suggestions? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > To unsubscribe send an email to > contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net > _______________________________________________ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net