I'd like to cosign nearly all of Greg's excellent response below. Don't
tell people how to play their music. It's disrespectful. But you can say
that in order to have them play for your dance, you have certain needs. Are
they interested in working to meet those needs? If not, that's fine, it's
not the gig for them. If so, focus on your bottom line needs and build from
there.
What is already in their repertoire that you can use? What is a "must-have"
(e.g. distinguishable phrases, steady beat), and what can you do without if
you have to? I once did a entire dance where I did without 2-part tunes --
the band just played tune after tune, medleys of 5, 6 or 7 tunes played two
or three times each. Some were three-part, some half-length, some regular.
Fabulous musicians (internationally known, actually), but in their style of
music they had never thought much about how many parts their tunes had. It
was going to be a huge lift for them to keep track of which tunes had how
many parts, and so I just let go of it. (Happily, all of their tunes had
square phrases, at least.)
I recently did a dance with an Irish bar band that had somehow heard about
contra dancing and managed to talk themselves onto the schedule without
having a clue what they were supposed to be doing. I went to a rehearsal
about a month out and told them a bunch of things about what would work and
what wouldn't, but I also realized there was no substitute for experience.
So I said, "which of the next few Saturdays could some of you go to one of
our dances? I'll arrange to get you a free pass." Eventually two of them
came the following week to a dance and simply watched what was happening
for about 90 minutes. The band leader called me the next day (I had a
conflict and could not be at the dance myself) and said "Ohhhh. Now we
understand." They ended up doing a nice job and were asked back.
David
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:09:40 +0000
From: Gregory <glibguide(a)protonmail.com>
Subject: [Callers] Re: working with inexperienced bands
Hi Joseph,
What is your musical experience/skill?
I have a music degree, have plied my trade in a few different areas of
professional musicianship, and I've been working with live musicians
(particularly young fiddlers who i see as the future and want to give
performance opportunities to) for 10 years as a dance caller in an area
with little-to-no contra dancing.
First off, I would get a sense of your musicians interest in the gig. Are
they doing it for easy money? Are they genuinely interested to play for
dancers and don't care how much they get paid? Are they making their living
from gig work? Or is this something they do on the side for fun? Are they
old-time experienced players? Or are they new upstarts, still forming their
musical identity as a performer? Have they mastered their instruments or
are they better-then-average amateurs? Answers to these questions can help
set expectations for their commitment.
I can confidently say that the suggestion of sending musicians new tunes /
resources a few weeks before the dance is not a welcome prospect and not
setting them up for success. You should, instead, encourage new repertoire
over a long period of time, and for the next show focus on what is in their
current repertoire that will suffice for dances (if you want them to play
for you again). It may seem an imposition, but if you can attend one of
their rehearsals or jams, and ask to go through their repertoire, that
would be best. Keep a few things in mind while doing so:
- No matter how experienced a fiddler is, playing for contra dances is a
specific skill or knowledge base; don't be afraid to say that such-and-such
doesn't work
- Some tunes sound fine but they're actually crooked and will not work for
contra. You need to be able to detect these tunes to prevent them being
programmed and ruining one of the dances. Crooked tunes in the contra dance
realm take multiple forms: additional beats within a measure, yes, but also
additional measures on a phrase. Phrases that are 4 or 12 beats long, and
tunes that have more than 2 parts are particularly hard to detect. Your
musicians may or may not know the difference or whether this is important
or not (even if you're clear that 32 bars jigs and reels is what you're
after, before hand).
- Different kinds of tunes work if the band is willing to play with the
tempo. For example, jigs tend to be played faster than is comfortable for
the dancers, so they need to be slowed down a touch, and polkas can also be
played at a slower tempo. I suggest this to attempt to broaden the
potential tunes that can be programmed while working within what they
already know.
Also be respectful of different musicians abilities... Dave Brubeck
couldn't read music, and some traditional musicians also never learned how
to read music, picking up tunes by ear instead. If this is the case,
sending tunes a few weeks before a show is simply not going to work.
Musicians have their own culture apart from dancers, so temper your
expectations and be patient and respectful.
Consider not hiring a "band" but hiring a fiddler. I don't know what the
remote situation you're in is like, but if you have any professional
musicians in your area, they should know how the gigs work. If you can find
a single fiddler and hire them, they will find someone else to play with
them as a duo or trio, as long as you explain what you're looking for
(reels at 120 bpm, playing for dancers, etc.) and the pay. If you can pair
less experienced musicians with more experienced musicians, this will
benefit you in the long run, bringing up a new generation of fiddlers in
this tradition. For example, many musicians have students. Ask if one of
their students is up for the task of performing and they can join in on a
few tunes. It also broadens your dance base when the parents come out and
participate.
You'll want to go over with whomever you hire a series of signals that
indicate "speed up", "slow down", "keep playing",
"stop immediately" and
"stop at the end of the phrase / last time".
You'll want to ensure that they start each tune with a 4 beat introduction
("Four for nothing" as Winton Marsalis says, and "Four potatoes" as
is the
phrase around here), which is a cue for you to cue the dancers. Musicians
are NOT in the habit of doing this on their own, and waiting once through
the tune instead is too long.
Forcing a square peg into a round hole is not what i would consider
setting anyone up for success. Expecting your blue grass band to convert to
a contra dance band lickity-split is, in my opinion, not a good approach. I
would suggest letting it be what it's going to be. Maybe your group likes
blue grass tunes, and you form a contra/bluegrass syncretism. This is part
of the folk process. Everywhere, everyone, is different and cherishing that
and encouraging appreciation is what i would consider setting people up for
success - my previous recommendations and advice support this idea, I
think. For example, in my area, fiddling is heavily influenced by many
repertoires, particularly Metis, which was originally used for Metis step
dancing. I doubt the Metis fiddle tunes get played anywhere else, but they
make for excellent contra dance tunes with their own flare and feel. I'm
leaning into this, it's part of the Manitoba sound!
Best of luck! Happy Dancing!
Greg, Winnipeg