8 Jul
2009
8 Jul
'09
1:26 p.m.
Hi Bev,
David Kaynor has another version that I use, just different in the
A1. The A parts are standard, I'll try to show the timing for the B
parts.
Cherokee Shuffle David Kaynor Improper Contra 10-measure B parts
tune: Cherokee Shuffle
A1 Dosido Neighbor, Circle L 1x
A2 Balance the ring, swing Neighbor
B1 Men allemande L 1/2 (4)
Balance the wave (4)
Swing Partner (12)
B2 Circle L 3/4 (8)
Balance the ring two times (8)
California twirl to face new Neighbors
It's a great dance! Fine for beginners, with a twist in the timing
for experienced dancers. (They're the ones who need to be told "Keep
swinging!" in B1 as the swing may feel too long to people used to 32-
measure tunes and dances.)
Richard
On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, The Witful Turnip wrote:
Re: 40 bar dances (comments by Chris and David...)
I shouldn't even type this but since I've currently got some time
on my
hands... I began to wonder about this version of Cherokee Shuffle.
I haven't
ever called it but I'm fairly sure I've danced David's original
crooked
version.... (I call the straight version all the time).
When I listen to the YouTube link David provided
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8Mmc69CP8) I count it like so:
A1: 8, 8
A2: 8, 8
B1: 8, 12
B2: 8, 12
Mind you, that's before they start riffing all over the place and I
can't
quite hear the phrasing. But I'm not hearing both phrases in both
B's having
12 beats/counts (let's not get started on that discussion
again...!). I'm
only hearing the second phrase in each B as having 12. Is it my
imagination?
And I see that as a little different than what Chris might be
looking for,
unless I'm misunderstanding his notation of "(AA=8+8 plus BB=12
+12)" because
that suggests to me that he needs all 4 of the B phrases to be 12.
Is that
what you meant Chris?
When I look at David's notation for the dance....
Cherokee Shuffle
Improper
A1: (facing up and down set) w/Ns, F & B; w/N, dos-a-dos; form circle
A2: Bal. Circle; W/N, swing, end progressed
B1: Gs LH turn 1/2; W/P, bal. & swing (12 beats)
B2: Circle L 3/4; Circle Bal. 2x; W/P, California Twirl to swap
places, face
new Ns
The B1 seems a little odd to me because the Gs LH turn 1/2 won't
fill 8
beats/counts. I say that's a 4 beat/count figure at best. So 4 +12
= 16 when
it should be 20, shouldn't it?? And that's assuming he mean the
notation of
(12 beats) to refer specifically to the balance and swing, which
could be
wrong on my part. I don't remember what this should feel like when
danced.
I guess there's a reason why I never call the crooked version...!
I'd be
interested in any analysis. And like David, I'm curious about the
tune the
band has in mind.
Thanks,
Bev
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