On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Janet Bertog via
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I have contacted Carol and have begun a discussion. I still have several unanswered
questions but one thing I did learn is that the Romani have claimed the word and deemed it
offensive and feel it should not be used, in any context, in any language. More about why
she herself uses the word later. One thing I asked her was about her insistence on the use
of a capital G. To me, this would indicate that Gypsy would refer to the ethnicity, while
gypsy would have a possibly completely different meaning.
We know that gipsy/gip was being used in country dances at least in 1909 when Cecil Sharp
wrote them down. Two of the three dances in the 1909 book originated in the 1500s, one
ECD and one Morris Dance from Scotland. We do not know if they originally used the terms
gip/gipsy in the 1500s, but we do know that gip, at least, has another meaning in Welsh (a
celtic language) - gaze or glance.
So, my conversation with Carol is ongoing, and unresolved. But if you feel that a group
can claim a word and then claim that it is a slur, there are a lot of other words you
should stop using as well.
Janet
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Erik Hoffman via
Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
What's in a word? As this list points out, it gets confusing.
Like Martha, I stopped using "Ladies," and "Gents," or
"Gentlemen," because they are words steeped in class-ism. And after years of
being told we live in a classless society, the lie of that became clear.
But, more recently I was approached by a man who felt "Ladies," and
"Gents" were roles anyone could play whereas "Men" and
"Women" really did refer to what was between our legs, and made it more
uncomfortable to switch roles. Also, even though we live in a severely class society, the
words "Ladies" and "Gents" don't seem to carry that weight any
more.
Then again, in Berkeley we've switched to "gender free," and use
"Ravens" and "Larks" now.
This is all to say, those who come to the dance have many differing associations with
words. And sometimes it is important that we listen.
Take "He" and "She." We all know that "He" has been the
generic pronoun where "She" refers only to women. Since we live in a society
dominated by the patriarchal Christian religion, it's clear that using "He"
and "Him" generically supports this concept. Many of us, in the sixties and
seventies counteracted this male dominance by using "She" and "Her" as
the generic pronoun. It was startling how different it feels to switch to those. There are
now corners pushing to just use "They" and "Them" for everyone, like
we use "you" for both plural and singular. Maybe it will take hold...
But all this is to say, these little words do have an affect on how we think about
things.
So now we are thinking about "gypsy." Or, better with capitalization,
"Gypsy." Is it derogatory? To some, not all. Is that reason enough to change?
Perhaps for some. I've started using "Right Shoulder Turn," and "Left
Shoulder Turn." It doesn't slide off the tongue, an isn't as colorful, but it
is more descriptive. At Contra Carnivale, Susan Michaels said someone had come up with
"Roma-around," or "Romaround.."
So we're all dealing with it, and considering this as:
Some of us are attached to our words, and don't want to loose it. Some of us are
vociferous about keeping it. And some of us are searching for a substitute that might work
better. Seems about right.
Mostly, I want to suggest, as we struggle with this, consider how our language and word
choice does affect others, whether we mean it to or not. As callers, we are in the public
eye--granted a small pond of the public--but our words do go out there and cause others to
think, too.
What's in a word? A lot.
~erik hoffman
oakland, ca
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