Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2

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Re: "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) (Andrea Nettleton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:05:04 +0100 From: "John Sweeney" &lt;info(a)contrafusion.co.uk&gt; To: &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] Sashay Message-ID: <688B0730D2344A89B91D326A50EDF0BF@study> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry - it changed chasse (with an accent) to "chass?" John ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 09:10:17 -0700 From: James Saxe &lt;jim.saxe(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: [Callers] "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) Message-ID: &lt;B10FBC78-968B-48E2-8500-5B7BEB30A61B(a)gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On May 31, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: I've mentioned this before on this list and I guess it's time to mention it again: Check out the B2 part of the dance "Saint Paddy's Day" by Kirston Koths, as seen in _Zesty Contras_ or at http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_137.html The action that Kirston describes as a a "full sashay" (facing neighbor and maintaining eye contact as much as possible, walk clockwise around partner) is precisely the figure that has come to be known to contra dancers as a "Mad Robin", though in Kirston's dance it's done with dancers moving around partners across the set while looking up or down at neighbors. Kirston's description of the action as a "full sashay" certainly derives from one of the historical uses of that term in square dancing (Ken Sweeney's observation that "full sashay" is not currently part of the approved MWSD terminology as codified by CALLERLAB notwithstanding). Kirston wrote "Saint Paddy's Day" in 1982. The term "Mad Robin" entered the contra dance lexicon (for an action that only vaguely resembles something from the English country dance "Mad Robin") much later--perhaps in the late 1990's. Can any of you pinpoint who introduced term "Mad Robin" with it's current contra dance meaning, or when, or what dance they were describing? --Jim ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:55:13 -0500 From: Jonathan Sivier &lt;jsivier(a)illinois.edu&gt; To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) Message-ID: &lt;51AA2771.6050001(a)illinois.edu&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed On 6/1/2013 11:10 AM, James Saxe wrote: The name, and figure, almost certainly come from the English country dance Mad Robin (Playford 1687) as reconstructed by Cecil Sharp in 1922. In this dance the 1's do the figure of dancing around their neighbor, usually while maintaining eye contact with their partner, and then the 2's do it. In the figure as it has been imported into contra modern contra dances it is usually done with everyone moving at once. An idea for a workshop. Do a variety of older dances, ECD and early American, with various figures now considered to be standard in contra and square dance as well as modern dances with those figures. Possibilities would be Hunsdon House (1665) with a grand square and Mad Robin as well as any one of several different dances from the 1600's and 1700's with heys and contra corner type figures. I think I will propose this as a possible workshop for our local dance group, though it will have to be in the fall since our summer schedule is already set. Jonathan ----- Jonathan Sivier Caller of Contra, English and Early American Dances jsivier AT illinois DOT edu Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html ----- Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? A: It depends on what dance you call! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 13:11:01 -0400 From: Charles Hannum &lt;root(a)ihack.net&gt; To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) Message-ID: <CAEqW=hPXPvKKb1NtYJbUKB=wt+0kdEk3PNgPkgMfJ= 7w3NCccg(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been trying to rename it to "Angry Bird", but I haven't got much buy-in yet. On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Sivier &lt;jsivier(a)illinois.edu 2's and as possible http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:26:04 -0500 From: Jonathan Sivier &lt;jsivier(a)illinois.edu&gt; To: "Caller's discussion list" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) Message-ID: &lt;51AA2EAC.7090005(a)illinois.edu&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed On 6/1/2013 12:11 PM, Charles Hannum wrote: How about "Crazy Crow", "Wrought-up Wren", "Disturbed Duck", "Insane Ibis", "Passionate Pigeon" or others along the same lines? ;-) Jonathan ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 13:43:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Donna Hunt &lt;dhuntdancer(a)aol.com&gt; To: callers(a)sharedweight.net Subject: [Callers] Favorite Hot Weather Dances Message-ID: &lt;8D02D069E172234-21F0-46857(a)webmail-m213.sysops.aol.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi As the summer is beginning (nearing 90 degrees today!) I'm wondering if any of you have favorite dances that you call that are not all action all the time. Please share modern dances that have interesting choreography and will help to keep the dancers cool or at least give them a break from the action for some of the dance. Thanks Donna Hunt ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:03:34 -0400 From: "Ric Goldman \(letsdance\)" &lt;letsdance(a)rgoldman.org&gt; To: "'Caller's discussion list'" &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) Message-ID: &lt;002201ce5ef2$5731c860$05955920$(a)rgoldman.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There's a Morris dance which uses the figure called Belligerent Blue jay. :-) callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Charles Hannum Dosidos) > On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Sivier &lt;jsivier(a)illinois.edu > > On 6/1/2013 11:10 AM, James Saxe wrote: > > >> Can any of you pinpoint who introduced term "Mad Robin" with > >> it's current contra dance meaning, or when, or what dance they > >> were describing? > >> > > > The name, and figure, almost certainly come from the English country > > dance Mad Robin (Playford 1687) as reconstructed by Cecil Sharp in 1922. 2's > > do it. In the figure as it has been imported into contra modern contra > > dances it is usually done with everyone moving at once. > > > An idea for a workshop. Do a variety of older dances, ECD and early > > American, with various figures now considered to be standard in contra and well as heys possible fall > > since our summer schedule is already set. > > > Jonathan > > ----- > > Jonathan Sivier > > Caller of Contra, English and Early American Dances > > jsivier AT illinois DOT edu > > Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_**leader.html< http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html> > > ----- > > Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? > > A: It depends on what dance you call! > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Callers mailing list > > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > > http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers< http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:11:47 -0400 From: Andrea Nettleton &lt;twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net&gt; To: Caller's discussion list &lt;callers(a)sharedweight.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Callers] "Full sashay"/"MadRobin" (was Re: Arms Folded in Dosidos) Message-ID: &lt;0D466FA5-ABDF-40A1-B5F3-D3CEE0CF9F77(a)bellsouth.net&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But Mad Robin is a nickname for a Puck-like character, in literature. Also known as Robin Goodfellow, a player of harmless pranks, random doer of little good deeds, a bit mischievous and secretive, given to pinching a sleeping queen of a night. I think perhaps the author of the ECD thought the flirtatious nature of the move was a bit Puckish. So alternate bird names wouldn't be proper substitutes. I have also hard the move called a shuttle, which I think diminishes the flirty part too much. Mad Robin works, even if less descriptive than we might like. Playful Parallels just doesn't quite cut it. But if we think of Mad Robin as Robin Goodfellow, aka Puck, maybe it sits a little more easily as a name for that very playful move. Andrea Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask On Jun 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Jonathan Sivier &lt;jsivier(a)illinois.edu&gt; wrote: > On 6/1/2013 12:11 PM, Charles Hannum wrote: >> I've been trying to rename it to "Angry Bird", but I haven't got much >> buy-in yet. > How about "Crazy Crow", "Wrought-up Wren", "Disturbed Duck", "Insane Ibis", "Passionate Pigeon" or others along the same lines? ;-) > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers End of Callers Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2 ***************************************