24 Oct
2015
24 Oct
'15
10:36 p.m.
I can see from this discussion that there is definitely merit in giving this move a
different name, though I had never thought of it as a derogatory term before. I rather
like the idea suggested in a previous post of "eddy" because it is short and to
the point and sounds different from other calls. "Walk all around your
neighbor/partner" is fine for a walkthrough and as a description, but not very good
for a quick reminder when you'd rather be calling a lot less.
Another move that one would have to rename is the "gypsy star". I have
personally always called the move "gypsy star" as "star wrong" -
mostly because if I say "gypsy star" there is always at least one couple in the
crowd that starts to gypsy and swing (eddy and swing?) instead of doing the star.
"Star wrong" is also short and to the point and emphasizes the oddity of the
star - two people backing up and two going forward. It seems to get the job done.
Martha
On Oct 24, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
In square dance, the call "walk all around your
left hand lady" is very close to a right shoulder gypsy, and "See Saw is a left
shoulder walk around. A left shoulder Dosido is no longer called a See Saw, but a Left
Dosido.
Walk all around your nieghbor or partner, and see saw your neighbor or partner, may be
able to replace the gypsy without generating any new terms.
Rich
Stafford, CT
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Richard Hart via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I always describe a gypsy as being just like a dos à dos, but face to
face, instead of back to back.
As that is the case, why not use French again. As "dos à dos" means
back to back, why not use "face à face" which means face to face?
Pronunciation would probably be difficult for those who don't speak
French, so it would probably become "facey-face" for many.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Don Veino via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Before I respond directly, I ask that all of us
posting what I expect to be
many replies to trim post quotes to just the pertinent bits (particularly
those reading the "digest" version).
....
Curiously enough, I'd raised this naming
issue with a group of callers (and
dancers glommed on) at a house party recently. An area caller had tried
rebranding the Gypsy as an Orbit, which this group rejected due to the
existing usage & meaning for that term. One participant was of Romani
heritage and expressed pride at the existing term and satisfaction at it
being used for such a nice dance move and would feel loss were it to be
renamed. I don't mention this to make excuses for anything that might offend
but rather to show that there are many possible perspectives. I'd since
thought of other possible names and came up with these:
Swirl - gentlest, unfortunately similar to "twirl" in sound
Cyclone - too "violent", encouraging abandon?
Vortex - distinct in sound, 2 syllables and short when spelled out.
Sorry you find yourself in this situation. We know your actual intent was to
bring happiness, not offend.
-Don
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