4 Sep
2016
4 Sep
'16
1:25 p.m.
Could anyone share a dance that has a promenade with a courtesy turn or can
any promenade across the set be adapted to promenade with a courtesy turn?
Claire
On Sep 4, 2016 7:37 AM, "Jack Mitchell via Callers" <
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Richard said:
"My first dance with a courtesy turn may use it with a promenade,
depending on the crowd. Then move on to dances with a chain or R&L.
Once the turn is understood and well done, the others are easy."
And thus we come to why teaching moves with a courtesy turn is so much
easier in New England (where promenade and courtesy turn are both done in
the same position). Oh how much easier if we all did a "New England
promenade."
J
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 11:47 AM Richard Hart via Callers <
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I usually try to separate the courtesy turn from
the chain. A courtesy
turn is used in a number of moves, including R&L through, and a
promenade. Practice that first with your partner. Man backs up and the
woman gores forward, with arms around your partner's back. .Remember
to stop facing the right direction, and as a caller remember to tell
dancers which way to face. This can be done in a couple of minutes or
so.
My first dance with a courtesy turn may use it with a promenade,
depending on the crowd. Then move on to dances with a chain or R&L.
Once the turn is understood and well done, the others are easy.
I agree with Erik (and Dudley!) The walkthrough and instruction should
be short. They'd all rather be dancing, so don't introduce much new
stuff in any single dance.
And thanks for this discussion. I love seeing new dances to try and
new possibilities to teach when there are a lot of beginners.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Luke Donforth via Callers
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Hello all,
I've been thinking about glossary dances, and building vocabulary for
new
dancers. I'm curious what your favorite dance
is for teaching a ladies
chain
for a crowd of mostly new dancers? Or if you
don't have a specific
dance,
what do you look for in a dance to make the chain
as accessible as
possible?
Just a chain over? Or a full chain over and back?
Chain to neighbor? Chain to partner?
What move best precedes the chain to set it up?
What move best follows the chain that still helps new dancers succeed?
Other factors you consider?
I don't have a go-to favorite, but I'll walk through some of the things
I
think about:
I very seldom call a dance with a full chain. Experienced dancers don't
whoop and holler over them, and for new dancers, I'd worry the confusion
would snowball.
Programatically, in a hall with a reasonable mix of new and experienced
dancers, I shoot for the first chain to be to neighbor so that the new
dancers can feel it with different experienced dancers; rather than new
dancers (who will partner up and clump, no matter how many helpful
dance
angels you have) continually chaining to each
other. If I were trying to
teach a chain to ALL new dancers... well, I doubt I'd teach a chain to
completely new dancers... but if I were, I'd probably go to partner.
For moves, while I love the chain->left hand star transition; I'm not
convinced it's the best for teaching the chain. It often goes B2
chain->star, find new neighbor; and the new neighbor from a left hand
star
is non-trivial for new dancers. Possibly a dance
where the chain->star
wasn't followed by the progression would work, but it's such a great
progression when they're ready for it; I don't see many of those dances.
chain->star->left allemande maybe? I do like long lines either before or
after the chain as a set-up; but not on both ends. I'm not sure which
side
of the chain the lines help more. The Trip to ___
dances that end with
chains and start with women walking in to long wavy lines flow well,
but I
don't know that they're the best for
teaching chains, since the long
wavy
line is another new piece.
Anyway, just some of my thoughts (started by the other thread about
simple
glossary dances). I look forward to hearing what
others on Shared Weight
have to say about the dances they use to teach chains (and I certainly
won't
be offended if folks tangent off into gent's
chains; just start a new
thread
;-)
Take care,
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