7 Jan
2013
7 Jan
'13
4:03 p.m.
There seems to be one main line of long-time dancers who don't flourish/dip as often
as the younger folks, and there is a line of younger dancers near the door who do lots of
dips/twirls, with various degrees of this happening as you go from left to right (facing
the stage). It's pretty clear - if you want to be dipped/twirled, go in this line,
and if not go in the other line. Lots of folks do go from line to line (I do) but others
stay in their line depending on degree of flourish you want to do.
Perry
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From: Ron T Blechner <contraron(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] women's experiences
By "crap" I was referring to more than just merely being twirled / dipped when
they didn't want it.
What segregation of lines happens at Glen Echo?
-Ron
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Perry Shafran <pshaf(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I am curious - is this seen more often in women than it is in men playing the role of the
woman? I've been the woman a number of times in dances, and I do see the pushiness of
some males - twirling me when I don't want to be twirled, even being subject to a
(small) dip one time. Generally though (at least in my home communities) I'm not
subject to this. It also doesn't SEEM like women are resigned to pushy males - most
ladies I see seem to enjoy their twirls and dips - but that could be due to the
segregation of lines that has occurred, at least at Glen Echo.
Perry
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I've been having conversations with a lot of my female friends in the dance
community over the past 6 months over their experiences as women. I won't
make a lengthy itemization of what I've found, because I think it's
something every caller should do for themself, however, the one thought I'd
share is the one I find most disappointing:
- Women have expressed that they put up with far more crap from pushy males
than I personally would put up with had the situation be reversed; there is
a far more prevalent sense of resignation of "that's just how things are /
it's not so bad" than I had believed.
in dance,
Ron
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Aahz Maruch <aahz(a)pobox.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013, Tom Hinds wrote:
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I haven't been following this topic of lead/follow at all but Bree's
statement really caught my eye. I'm very curious to know what it's
like to dance as a women with men who have a wide range of skills
and personalities.
I should set aside an evening and dance disguised as a women to
really understand what the experience is like.
Unless you have experience cross-dressing (i.e. can successfully
disguise yourself), your experience will almost certainly be somewhat
different from a woman's. I definitely get treated somewhat differently
by men.