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    1. Re: Fw: Creating a CDSS dance depository (Perry Shafran)
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 From: Perry Shafran <pshaf(a)yahoo.com>
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 I'm trying to figure out why having a database of dances would detract
 from the folk process. ?Isn't the folk process considered the handing down
 of material from person to person, generation to generation? ?And should
 that not also include the way that material is handed down? ?I think that a
 database of dances is extremely helpful to the evolution of the folk
 process. ?When the web evolved, people put their dances on the web for all
 to see, use, adapt. ?Now we have the cloud, and callers can share their
 dances using a cloud-based database. ? Considering that this is what was
 highly requested on the survey, I think that we need to find ways to create
 this repository of dances that also respects the rights of the
 choreographers who write them. ?
 Perry
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  From: Delia Clark <deliaclark8(a)gmail.com>
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 Subject: Re: [Callers] Fw: Creating a CDSS dance depository
 I agree with Andrea.? I find the annotations that folks provide on this
 listserv to be the most helpful part.? If we allowed a wide range of dances
 in the database, but then opened it up for commentary, sort of like Yelp or
 Amazon or other user reviews, I think we'd get a lot of useful intel on
 each dance.
 On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Nettleton <twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net>
 wrote:
  Rather than limit which dances get on the
database and how, why not 
 allow reviews of said dances.? If it had a clunky moment
for one dancer,
 tends to get saw toothed, or has other issues, it might get fewer stars and
 an explanation.? Choreographers could choose to pull or amend a dance so
 reviewed, and callers could decide for themselves whether the reviews will
 apply in their situation.? The folk process works better the more
 information and dances are out there, not by artificially limiting, based
 on some committees personal tastes and particular filters regarding
 appropriateness.? There might be some requirement that a dance needs to
 have been successfully danced by at least two or three communities to
 qualify or something so every person who thinks they can write doesn't post
 a bunch of useless dances.? I think making it be more work for CDSS? to put
 a dance up impedes the project unnecessarily.?
  I do, however, like the idea of having links to
choreographers' 
 websites, and maybe even a caller's companion-sequel search
engine, so one
 could look for say, an biter mediate dance with a hey and a mad robin, and
 come up with all the dances in the database which fulfill the request.
  My two cents,
 Andrea
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> On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com> 
wrote:
 >
> I just read the results of the CDSS caller's survey.?  ( 
http://www.cdss.org/tl_files/cdss/documents/how-to/CDSS_Contra_Task_Force_s…
 )
 >
> One of the resulting suggestions was for CDSS to set up a dance 
 depository.? ?
Here are my thoughts on this.
 >
>
> Considering the 1000's of contra (and other formation) dances that have 
written, of varying quality and difficulty, I have reservations about a
 single global contra database.? Such a database detracts from the folk
 process.? And who is to say which dances are worthy of placement in such a
 database??
 >
> HOWEVER? (part 1) .....
>
> CDSS should have a depository of dances, somewhat like the one on the 
"Contra Dances by" section of Cary Ravitz's page 
http://ravitz.us/dance/
 > While Cary's page links to dance
author's pages, the CDSS page should 
 get copies of each author's dances,
formatted however that author formatted
 them (e.g. .rtf, .pdf or .html), with the CDSS page containing links to
 these copies.? Authors should be able to send an updated file to CDSS up to
 say 3 times a year.?  This will preserve the author's dances when s/he?
 terminates his/her web site.? These links could include .pdfs of
 out-of-proint dance book.
 > The folk process in some sense is maintained
by people having to peruse 
 these various author pages in order to find dances.?  A
discussion board,
 maybe even the current Shared Weight forum, would be the place for for
 callers to discuss these dances.?
 >
> HOWEVER (part 2)? optional? ....
>
> The Caller's Companion (
http://callerscompanion.com/)? provides a good 
model of how an on-line database might work.? Many? aspects of this program
 will work as a model for an on-line dance database.?  So in addition to the
 pages susuggested in HOWEVER (part 1), CDSS could also set up an on-line
 database and intially populate it with at most 200-300 dances, selected by
 CDSS staff or a committee, of various difficulties and formations.?  Any
 CDSS member, and only CDSS members, should be allowed to add a dance to
 this database of remove a dance s/he inserted.? Dances on a page from
 HOWEVER (part 1) may well end up in this database.?
 >
> Michael Fuerst? ? ? 802 N Broadway? ? ? Urbana IL 61801? ? ? 
 217-239-5844
 > Links to photos of many of my drawings and
paintings are at 
 www.ArtComesFuerst.com
  
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