Ron,
You pose a real excellent question. WHAT makes a "good" caller? Now if you
were to ask the dancers on the floor who their favorite callers are, they generally list
popular, well-known callers who travel a lot. But does this mean that they are the
"best"? Or that other lesser-known callers aren't any good?
I've heard a lot of local callers who I have a LOT of fun when they call. On the
other hand, I've danced to a few nationally-known callers who I don't think are
very good at all. As a matter of fact, most callers, whether they stick to local areas or
whether they are national are very good.
My opinion is this: a real good caller is one who picks dances that are appropriate for
the crowd that he/she is calling for. They do their research ahead of time: Will I be
calling to mainly newbies? Mainly experienced dancers? A mix? What percentage of each
approximately? And then program said dance with the appropriate mix of dances for the
crowd that is expected to be there. And also be flexible to change your program on the
fly if the unexpected shows up.
Also - the ability to explain those dances well. It's tricky in mixed crowds - you
want to be just detailed enough so that the new dancers can pick up on it but not so wordy
so that the experienced dancers are getting antsy. A lot of this depends on the crowd mix
(experienced-to-newbie ratio). This also means that a good caller KNOWS the dances
he's calling inside and out. (Though I've been known to call a dance that I
picked up just that day, but before I do so I make sure I understand the dance and how it
flows.) For me, one of the most important things is to emphasize the tricky parts without
spending an hour on explaining it - that makes a good caller.
And then there's good caller-to-dancer relationships. By that I mean, you also need
to be likable to the crowd, personable. You're the party host. Those that than treat
their guests as welcome to the party.
Of course things will go wrong often to most callers, but a good caller handles those with
style and grace and doesn't show frustration. "Never let them see you
sweat" - a good rule of thumb.
There are probably more, but this note is getting lengthy and I can't think of any
more right now. It's an excellent question and conversation starter.
Perry
--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Ron T Blechner <contraron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ron T Blechner <contraron(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Thursday, May 10, 2012, 3:12 PM
I might suggest that there's a natural break-out topic:
"What makes a good caller? (both perspectives of caller, dancer, band,
and dance organizers all)"
I've heard a *lot* of callers talk about the difference of being "a
caller" and "a really good caller", and while experience is a
necessary condition, it is not, I believe, sufficient.
In dance,
Ron
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Laurie:
Your remarks don't contradict mine. You emphasized "FEEDBACK" and an
individual's disposition to accept such. I suggested that calling takes
"40-100 hours practice over 10- 50 dance events needed to experience the various
things that might go wrong or that one might do wrong, while having more experienced
callers nearby to counsel one through the mishaps." I certainly could/should have
added that suggestions to aspiring callers can also come from dancers. In our context,
"counsel" and "feedback" seem synonymous. But in any case, a
caller unwilling to accept/ponder such counsel (feedback) from callers and dancers will
not improve.
Also you noted that some, after mentorship, classes, and support, still lack "the
thing that callers make." Can you explain what to you the missing "thing"
is? I suspect some of such persons either (1) need closer to 50 experiences to master
the necessary skills, and/or (2) have been unlucky to have well-meaning, but less
effective counselors
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217-239-5844
--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Laur <lcpgr(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Laur <lcpgr(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Thursday, May 10, 2012, 12:28 AM
Michael,
Trust me, I (and I'm sure others) have seen callers go through mentorship, classes,
support, etc. And - they do not have the thing that callers make. Callers that are
serious want and need feedback, the community, the mentoring and again FEEDBACK. Those
that are- seek and respond to this. Those are nots - not. They are into them and not
into the rest. So the caution is - callers that aren't into the caller community
feedback mentorship ... lose. and the community that has to dance to them, loses.
Laurie P
West MI
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--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Michael Fuerst
<mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: [Callers] mentorship
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 3:06 AM
Contra calling is a relatively easy
skill to learn--much easier than mastering fiddle-playing,
auto repair, child rearing or Photoshop. After getting
several hours of initial instruction in contra calling, the
challenge becomes getting 40-100 hours practice over 10- 50
dance events needed to experience the various things that
might go wrong or that one might do wrong, while having more
experienced callers nearby to counsel one through the
mishaps. And of course workshops will intercept some of
the potential mishaps.
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL
61801 217-239-5844
--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net>
wrote:
From: Rich Goss <richgoss(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:55 AM
I may have missed it, but I haven't seen William Watson's
excellent collection of caller resources.
http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/
Rich
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