2 Oct
2011
2 Oct
'11
5:32 p.m.
It would not bother me to have my name left of, but some long-time dancers use that
information in deciding which dances they can attend. Maybe you don't have to leave
the name off. Just change the role to MC or some other title that does not have the square
dance connection.
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:09:14 -0700
From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Recruiting new dancers
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Thank you all for these great ideas.
I agree that the square dance connection is a turn-off to lots of new
dancers considering contras. I just completed a flyer for an upcoming dance
here and this discussion has influenced my design. I love putting the
musician and band names on the flyer because it emphasizes the live music
and the kind of instruments used. After reading these comments, however, I
asked myself: Why list the caller's name? The presence of a "caller"
definitely links the dancing to the square dance tradition. So I removed my
own name as caller from the flyer.
I'm not sure how other callers will take this but it makes sense to me.
Only the regular dancers will note who the caller is, and *the flyer is not
meant to target the regulars*. The name of the caller only raises questions
in the minds of people who know nothing about a contra dance. It seems to
me that the phrase: "All dances taught," should be sufficient information
for new folks.
What do *you *think? How would you, as the caller, feel about having your
name left off of a flyer for a dance you are calling?
- Greg McKenzie
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Martha Edwards <meedwards(a)westendweb.com>wrote;wrote:
Just to set a record straight, I believe it was
Spider Vetter who came up
with the "Ants-Pants-Contradance" idea. My kid went to UChicago about the
time she started the UChicago dance, and I heard the story back then. It
was
such a great idea I've been bragging on her ever since, and feel she should
be given a whole bunch of credit from us!
Here's what she said when I checked with her about it:
That's absolutely true. I came up with the Ants-Pants-Contra dance
promotion
idea in November of 2001, and put it into circulation for the Hyde Park
contra dance in the first week of January 2002. We accompanied the flyer
with a huge campaign of sidewalk chalk, all around the University of
Chicago
campus, which Jena Barchas Lichtenstein and I spent several hours doing one
cold January night in the snow. The flyers went up the same night. The
guerilla approach to advertising was a huge success--the next day, people
were talking about it nonstop, and I believe we had almost 80 attendees at
the dance, most of them just interested parties who didn't have any idea
what the event was.
This was, incidentally, right around the time that we started holding the
Hyde Park dances consistently every month, so the Hyde Park dance is now
almost 10 years old.
I met Julia Nickles only once, at a New Year's Eve party at the end of
2004.
At that time, she was interested in new ideas to promote the dance at
Brown,
which she had just become involved with. I told her about my experience
with
the Hyde Park dance, and about some of my ideas, and I suggested that she
try something like that. Julia asked if she could use some of my ideas and
I
said "sure, they seem to have worked in Chicago."
Not a Big Deal, and Julia deserves a lot of credit, too, for getting the
idea well-promoted.
Spider also taught me NOT to tell people that "contra dancing is sort of
like square dancing." Sometimes, she won't even tell people what it is.
"You
have to show up to find out," she'll say, or "it's fun dancing to live
music."
M
E
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:38:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Mckeever <macmck(a)ymail.com>
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Greg,
I hadn't thought about that before - but it makes sense.? The caller's name is
meaningless to new dancers and could even be a distraction.? The bands often have colorful
names that could attract attention.? You do have to try to look at it from a potential
dancer's perspective.? I want to know about the event.? The caller's name is kind
of an inside thing - I am sure no one sees the flyer and says - wow - look who's
calling - I need to do this.
Mac McKeever
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From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Recruiting new dancers
Thank you all for these great ideas.
I agree that the square dance connection is a turn-off to lots of new
dancers considering contras.? I just completed a flyer for an upcoming dance
here and this discussion has influenced my design.? I love putting the
musician and band names on the flyer because it emphasizes the live music
and the kind of instruments used.? After reading these comments, however, I
asked myself: Why list the caller's name?? The presence of a "caller"
definitely links the dancing to the square dance tradition.? So I removed my
own name as caller from the flyer.
I'm not sure how other callers will take this but it makes sense to me.
Only the regular dancers will note who the caller is, and *the flyer is not
meant to target the regulars*.? The name of the caller only raises questions
in the minds of people who know nothing about a contra dance.? It seems to
me that the phrase: "All dances taught," should be sufficient information
for new folks.
What do *you *think?? How would you, as the caller, feel about having your
name left off of a flyer for a dance you are calling?
- Greg McKenzie
**************
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Martha Edwards <meedwards(a)westendweb.com>wrote;wrote:
Just to set a record straight, I believe it was
Spider Vetter who came up
with the "Ants-Pants-Contradance" idea. My kid went to UChicago about the
time she started the UChicago dance, and I heard the story back then. It
was
such a great idea I've been bragging on her ever since, and feel she should
be given a whole bunch of credit from us!
Here's what she said when I checked with her about it:
That's absolutely true. I came up with the Ants-Pants-Contra dance
promotion
idea in November of 2001, and put it into circulation for the Hyde Park
contra dance in the first week of January 2002. We accompanied the flyer
with a huge campaign of sidewalk chalk, all around the University of
Chicago
campus, which Jena Barchas Lichtenstein and I spent several hours doing one
cold January night in the snow. The flyers went up the same night. The
guerilla approach to advertising was a huge success--the next day, people
were talking about it nonstop, and I believe we had almost 80 attendees at
the dance, most of them just interested parties who didn't have any idea
what the event was.
This was, incidentally, right around the time that we started holding the
Hyde Park dances consistently every month, so the Hyde Park dance is now
almost 10 years old.
I met Julia Nickles only once, at a New Year's Eve party at the end of
2004.
At that time, she was interested in new ideas to promote the dance at
Brown,
which she had just become involved with. I told her about my experience
with
the Hyde Park dance, and about some of my ideas, and I suggested that she
try something like that. Julia asked if she could use some of my ideas and
I
said "sure, they seem to have worked in Chicago."
Not a Big Deal, and Julia deserves a lot of credit, too, for getting the
idea well-promoted.
Spider also taught me NOT to tell people that "contra dancing is sort of
like square dancing." Sometimes, she won't even tell people what it is.
"You
have to show up to find out," she'll say, or "it's fun dancing to live
music."
M
E
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