9 Sep
2015
9 Sep
'15
9:20 p.m.
You know, just a few minutes ago Alan posted a very reasonable call for civility on this
list. He specifically mentioned not assuming "that your experiences trump their
experiences." I've seen prominent callers call dances with shadow swings, and
I've seen people enjoy them. Some callers may want to use them, some may not. And if
we're trying to be civil, let's not see the worst in others. ("Your
suggestion is a subterfuge to rationalize...")
Richard
On Sep 9, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Michael Fuerst wrote:
Richard: Your suggestion is subterfuge to
rationalize the caller's doing something (calling a shadow swing dance) that should
never be done.
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 3:45 PM, Richard Fischer via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Here's a suggestion I don't think I've seen in this discussion. If you want
to call a dance with a shadow swing, how about save it for time when you can have several
shorter sets, and remind couples they can join other sets when they reach the top or the
bottom, to get an opportunity to dance with a bigger variety of people. (And of course
remind dancers they may have the surprise of a new shadow.)
Richard
On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
Hey all,
First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are problematic.
Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the conversation I want to have in
this thread; I ask that you respond to the question I'm asking and do not debate my
premise--at least not in this particular thread. This should help keep this thread on
track and hopefully reduce excess noise and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv.
Thanks!
Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to be able to
call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an uncomfortable position. Do
folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was
considering, at the beginning of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and
mentioning, "this will be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes,
do so now" (or something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the
idea is giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move (thereby
changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this method? Suggestions of
others?
Cheers.
Maia
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