I would reiterate Dave's comment. The dance really only has one
challenge...but it is a doozy.. Remembering whether you are a head or a
side on each interrelation of the grand square is a challenge, partly
because you have to recall  2 things...Am I a head or  a side & do I
separate or approach.
Great weekend, thanks Luke!
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:46 PM, David Harding via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
  Hi Luke, thanks for a great weekend.  I'm piping
up as a dancer who had
 hoped that you would call a grand square in a contra formation after the
 discussion here.  Tonight I find myself in an analytical frame of mind,
 thinking about where we stumbled, in the hope that you (and others) will
 keep calling this dance and have great success with it.
 I'm from Illinois, but a regular at the two Wisconsin weekends
 (IndepenDance and Squirrel Moon).  The programs tend to be dominated by
 contras, but with enough squares so most dancers are familiar with the
 basic concepts.  I haven't been keeping count, but it feels as though most
 weekends include one dance with a grand square, and I felt that there were
 sufficient dancers on Sunday who knew the grand square figure that we
 should have been fine.
 Personally, I struggled to remember which direction to start as we
 flip-flopped from side to side.  I think a lot of us were disoriented that
 way.  Even in a square dance with rotating partners, one role usually stays
 home and can anchor the orientation.
 Part of my problem was not (yet) having internalized my identity as part
 of a right or left couple in a four-facing-four.  I don't need to think any
 more when I'm addressed as a gent (or lady), as a middle or inside or
 outside.  I know when I'm a head or a side.  I know where to find my corner
 wherever I am at the moment.  But I don't recall dancing a four-facing-four
 where the right couples did something different from the left couples.
 My two cents in the interest of continuous improvement.
 -Dave Harding
 On 7/5/2016 12:15 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers wrote:
 Thanks John, that does seem like a fun bit to incorporate.
 I ran the Fox Hollow Foibles dance with the Grand Square happening on the
 diagonal at IndepenDance in Wisconsin. Folks seemed to have fun with it,
 but it was certainly challenging (my sense is that community doesn't do
 many squares; Grand or otherwise).
 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:20 PM, John Sweeney via Callers <
 callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
  Of course contra dancers like swinging, so you
could try incorporating
 this version into a contra dance:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfqC8uVfCUo
 In “Cowboy Dances” (1939) there was also a version with half a two-hand
 turn (but they called it a swing!) every time you met someone.
 Happy dancing,
 John
 John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
 
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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