Hi everyone,
I am a new member of this group and have enjoyed the postings in the last
few weeks. I participated in David Millstone's calling workshops and look
forward to practicing more and getting up on stage to call some day.
The origin of my question comes from my role as a dance organizer, but I am
wondering what you all think a caller might have done to respond to this
situation.
At a recent dance, the sound was not working correctly. From the floor, we
could hear the caller and the one instrument that was plugged in. The two
other instruments that were unplugged were barely heard. The sound quality
was very poor.
I witnessed the caller notify the band of a sound problem and the band was
trying to solve the problem between dances, but it wasn't working. During
the break, they moved the speakers off the stage and onto the floor and the
problem was solved and the sound during the second half of the dance went
really well.
As the caller, what would you all have done in this situation?
Nancy Turner
Vermont
Just a note to new callers...
When working with a new band it helps to very specific if you wish the
band to give you 4 beats as a setup
Before starting the actual dance. I worked with a fine band this past
weekend but unless I asked for four beats
Before each dance than they went right into the tunes and my timing was
off.
In hindsight I should have coordinated this with the band before the
evening of dancing began.
Even with my slight gaffs the evening was a big success.
Thanks
Gale wood
A request:
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> From: Izzy Young <izzy.young(a)telia.com>
> Date: November 7, 2005 10:18:56 AM EST
>
> And besides that you said you would pass my name onto forty or
> so contradance callers with my request to find out their favorite 5
> or 6 dances, and, ALSO, to list 1 or 2 dances they used to love and
> do not teach any longer. This is part of my great project. If you
> can manage that can you put in the quote, the short paragraph on
> Ralph Page that I wrote in 1961.
Please respond directly to Izzy (izzy.young(a)telia.com) -- who is
fascinating guy. A former New Yorker, he's lived in Sweden for the
past 30 years and runs the "Folklore Center" in Stockholm. He calls
dances for Swedes and Danes on a regular basis.
Izzy says he only needs dance titles, not figures.
Here's the quote, which was an announcement that Izzy ran in his "The
Folklore Center Recommends" newsletter in 1961, when he still lived
in NYC:
"RALPH PAGE, Square Dance Caller from New Hampshire, leads the
dancers through their paces at the Metropolitan-Duane Hall. It is
such a pleasure to have a traditional caller with imagination in NYC
after listening to most of the modern callers around."
Thank you everyone for your kind words about the list. It's been a
pleasure watching this list evolve and I look forward to where it goes
from here.
But I want to make sure that my (mostly) silent partner gets his due.
Without Seth, this list wouldn't exist. Not only did he provide the
technical know-how and resources to set up the list, but he approached
me with the idea! I was (and still am) glad to add some enthusiasm and
effort to his.
Chris
Wow ! Chris, you sure have been busy calling ! Good for you.
And thanks for getting Shared Weight started.
Congrats on the anniversary of the group.
Bev
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> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:10:27 -0500
> From: Chris Weiler <chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org>
> Subject: [Callers] (long) Long overdue update
> To: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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> Hello everyone,
>
> It's been a long time since I sent an update and boy, has a lot happened
> since. ...... <snipped the details..>
> * North Whitefield, ME 5/27
> * MIT dances 6/7 and 8/9
> * Square Dance Callers Workshop 7/23-30 at Pinewoods during American Week
> * East Sandwich, MA 8/20
> * VFW hall, Cambridge, MA 9/1 NEFFA multi-caller night
> * Medway 10/1
> * Mystic 10/8
> * Saratoga, NY 10/15
> * Hawthorn Valley Farm Benefit Dance 10/29 Amble Dance Hall, Mellenville,
NY
Hi all,
Just thought I'd send some follow up about the workshop that I ended up
doing ("Helping Hands 4") in the afternoon of Oct 29th. First, I wanted to
thank everyone for your comments. They were helpful.
I particularly appreciated David's comments about dancing without
embellishment. Coincidentally, we had a group of 20-25 new teenaged dancers
appear at the dance held one week before the workshop. One of the girls was
turning 19 and decided to bring her party to our dance. What a fabulous
thing for TCD ! We so needed a boost of contagious, infectious energy ! It
was wonderful. But I noticed that the intermediate dancers on the floor
didn't tone down the embellishments, and I saw evidence that it was
problematic for the newbies. I noticed the newbies twirling around in
dosidos and getting so dizzy, that we had to catch a few of them before they
fell over ! But they were just following the intermediate dancers who were
doing that.
I also appreciated Karen's comment about the ladies chain to left hand star
and emphasized the connection between figures as a way to guide newbies. And
I really appreciated Melissa's comment that the best thing a more
experienced dancer can do is ask the newbie to dance and offer
encouragement. Absolutely agree there, and luckily, the Torontonians seem
to be pretty good at doing that.
Anyway, the workshop turnout was relatively low at 17 people. But it was an
absolutely glorious, sunny day after a week of rain and gloom and we figure
the good weather had an effect. However, as hoped and specifically
targeted, the dancers who came were mostly intermediate level dancers, many
of whom needed some refining of their own skills. The workshop was billed
as an interactive session and everyone got a chance to contribute in terms
of discussion. And I did ask them to "spread the word" to other
intermediate dancers who couldn't make it.
I talked about the better partner/dancer skills (giving weight, transitions
between figures, comfortable holds) sprinkled throughout the workshop. And
I used 8 dances in the 2 hour session, emphasizing the following in each
dance:
1. Breaking down a dance into individual phrases so people can really get a
sense of the actual timing for each figure. I asked the band to play an
individual phrase of the tune, up to speed, so that everyone could dance
each figure to the exact phrase of music. The point was for people to
understand exactly how much time they had for the figure without
embellishment.
And as an aside just to address Nathaniel's comment, no one at the workshop
(or any dance in Toronto) was discouraged or "looked down upon" for dancing
with embellishments. I *encouraged* intermediate dancers to consider dancing
without embellishments when they danced with a newbie, in order to help the
newbie learn phrasing and timing. And I do think there is a big difference
between the two statements, with the latter being positive.
2. Dancing a traditional dance with no embellishments and with the inactives
staying engaged. I used Chorus Jig and this was an interesting challenge for
the dancers. I asked the two's to follow the one's down the outside and
down the middle with their eyes so that they kept visual contact on them and
helped to draw them into the cast and then connect for the contra corners.
Even in the workshop, many of the intermediate dancers had trouble with the
contra corners figure once the dance got started, even though they had no
trouble through the walkthrough and explanation of the figure. Potentially
my teaching techniques needs refinement.
3. Communicating with eyes and gestures, no pulling/pushing. I really
believe it's possible to guide newbies gently and often without even having
to touch them. I set up the set and then asked all couple 2's to leave the
room ("step into our sound-proof, skill testing question booth !"). I taught
the dance to the 1's with ghost couples (which was lots of fun in and of
itself) and then invited the 2's back in and called it as a no walk thru.
The 2's were asked to act as newbies and the point was for the 1's to help
the 2's thru the dance. The set was so short that the one's became two's
pretty quickly and everyone was trying to out-newbie each other !
4. Communicating II - called Equality Jig (Steve Zakon- Anderson) where the
2's get to pick a 16 count figure on the fly for the B1 during the dance and
communicate it to the 1's with gestures. Again, the point was to communicate
the figure but the choice was made as a couple. Some very cool figured were
invented in that dance, and I also emphasized that mistakes were inevitable
but that the fixing them and being ready for the next figure was a sign of
great dancing. Someone in the workshop suggested "Better never than late"
which I also wholeheartedly agreed with.
5. Communicating III - called Hey Man (Paul Balliet) where the first figure
could be gents or ladies and they need to communicate to each other who was
going to dance it. Choice was made more as an individual.
6. Moving outside the minor set with beginners - reassuring them that they
will get back. Emphasis here was on guiding a newbie to the next figures and
bringing them back to their partner.
7. Then I called a more advanced dance because I wanted to try it and
mentioned that I wanted to test it with a more advanced set of dancers. I
chose White Water (Cary Ravitz) and talked a little bit about what to do on
the ends in an advanced dance. We talked about "going where you're needed"
instead of trying to teach end effects.
8. And I ended with a no walk through asking them to think about all of the
things that had been raised through the dances. I wish I'd seen Chris'
comment about adjusting ones dance style to each individual before the
workshop, because I think that's also a very valid point and I would have
emphasized it, had I thought of it.
I received very good feedback from both the dancers attending and the
organizers, so I was happy about that. Especially since it was the first
workshop like that I'd taught. We all went out for dinner and came back for
the Halloween Contra dance that night. And interestingly enough, there were
at least 10 - 15 newbies that night. Unfortunately, there were about 70-80
people at the dance and a few of the people that attended the workshop
didn't stay. It didn't seem to me that the "spread the word" approach for
the concepts discussed worked. But everyone seemed to have a great time at
the dance, which of course was the most important thing.
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The Witful Turnip wturnip(a)sympatico.ca
"I'm 40-fucking-5, and I've got nothing to hide !"
- Samantha Jones (Sex in the City)
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Hey everyone!!!
I just realized that last month was the first anniversary of the creation
of SharedWeight! (Just like a guy to forget an anniversary, don't you
think?)
Thank you everyone for contributing, reading and being a part of this
community. We have a great group here and I hope it continues for a long
time to come.
Happy calling and happy dancing!!!
Chris Weiler
Hello everyone,
It's been a long time since I sent an update and boy, has a lot happened
since. My last update was in May and I was about to call in North
Whitefield, ME. A lot of things have happened outside of calling, as
well. The biggest of which is moving to New Hampshire. I am going to try
and be brief (for those of you who haven't read my other e-mails, this
is going to be a stretch), but write a few sentences about each gig that
I've had since. You can look at what my schedule has been/will be like
at http://www.chrisweiler.ws/
* North Whitefield, ME 5/27
I was pretty nervous about this one, since I was substituting for
Chrissy Fowler and didn't want to let her down. It was also only my
second full evening of calling. I recorded most of the evening, and with
the help of my friend, Clark Baker, we realized that I ran almost every
dance very long (15-20 minutes from hands 4 to hands 4). I have since
worked on this and now look at my watch and have a target end time for
the dance to keep them below 15 minutes. The choreography for the
evening worked well. I had a spy amongst the dancers (my cousin,
Christi) who informed me that people had a good time.
* MIT dances 6/7 and 8/9
Both of these went pretty well. I split the calling on 6/7 with Mark
Schneider and on 8/9 with Mark, Ron Bernier III and Cortni Frescha. The
6/7 gig taught me a lot about choreographing on the fly and about
working with another caller who views things differently. The 8/9 gig
was more planned and went off smoother.
* Square Dance Callers Workshop 7/23-30 at Pinewoods during American Week
Kathy Anderson taught this course and boy was it great! We had a lot of
fun, and I learned a lot about calling squares. I called my first square
at Camper's Night and it went off pretty well. We had a great group and
I'm sure that we're all going to be talking about water squares for a
long time. 8^) One of the great experiences of the weekend was in class.
I was struggling with calling a square and was constantly checking the
card to remind myself of the figure. Kathy came over when I was done and
took the paper out of my hand and said "now call it!" or something like
that. What a freeing experience! I didn't call it exactly "right", but I
didn't feel tied down to the material anymore and just did what came
naturally. I had a lot more fun and everyone told me how much it showed.
Another was the "show and tell" on the last afternoon at camp. We had
everyone get into squares, with two callers dancing in each square. The
band was in the middle of the dance floor and one of the two callers
taught a dance, then called it from the square. We had 6 or 7 squares
all dancing different dances! Then we did it again with the other
caller. It was great fun!
* East Sandwich, MA 8/20
My third full night of calling. I was much more comfortable than the
first time that I called here. I discovered that I was able to recognize
and recover when the band and I had become out of sync by an "A" or "B"
part. You know the night is going well when you're feeling envious of
the dancers and wish that you were out there on the floor. 8^) I was
still having some troubles with running dances long, but did a better
job of it that night. We had to end the dance early because people left
and we only had 6-8 dancers left. I still don't have a good triplet
repertoire to draw from. I had just moved into my new place. From this
point on, I have been very busy and lax about preparing and practicing
for dances.
* VFW hall, Cambridge, MA 9/1 NEFFA multi-caller night
This evening was such a blast. Working with some of my caller friends
and with incredible musicians. I had some teaching problems because the
two dances that I did in the first half melded in my brain into one
dance. It took a big rewind and some studying of my cards to recover. I
think that I handled it with some poise and self-deprecation and no one
minded. This was a lot more fun than my first evening (when I had a
raging cold and could barely think through all of the drugs that I was on).
* Medway 10/1
This is the first evening of my marathon of calling during October. Five
gigs in six weeks. I have the dance list below (I had started this
e-mail once before and typed in the list). This dance has a good sized
group of beginners and even the regulars still have some raw edges, so I
kept things simple. There was a gentleman there who was elderly and
didn't get around very well. He also didn't know when to shortcut a
figure in order to be on time. All I could do was to call to the rest of
the hall and hope that his foursome would recover before the end of each
time through the dance. During the first dance, he fell down and
couldn't get up in time for the next round of the dance, so I stopped
the music immediately so people could help him. He was helped to a chair
and only danced a couple of more times during the evening. One of the
things that I was disappointed in was that I had to pay so much
attention to the dancers through the whole dance, that I couldn't spend
any to communicate with the band. It's something that I'm still working
on. You'll see below that I was able to bring out some more difficult
choreography later in the evening since a lot of the beginners left.
Midwest Folklore
Broken Sixpence
Esmerelda's Revenge
Spring Fever
Marian's Delight
The Baby Rose
You're Among Friends
Shadrack's Delight
Swingin' on a Star (square)
The Carousel
Haymaker's Jig
* Mystic 10/8
I learned here that it's a bad idea to schedule a first meeting with an
online date just before a dance. It was disastrous and it affected me
all evening. The woman who was running the hall said that she didn't
notice, and that everyone was having fun, so I did a good job of working
through it. Again I have the dance list below. I used a cordless
microphone for the first time this evening and it was wonderful. See the
section at the end for more info about that. The squares that I called
this evening went particularly badly. I've been gun-shy ever since due
to my lack of practice. I think that this is when I realized that people
are having a fun time mostly because I'm having fun and the band is
having fun and the mistakes don't matter so much. I taught my first
beginner session this night and it went OK. Mostly because the people
there had already danced once or twice. I still have to sit down and
work out a better "lesson plan" for the workshop.
Midwest Folklore
Broken Sixpence
Esmerelda's Revenge
Spring Fever
Marian's Delight
The Baby Rose
You're Among Friends
Shadrack's Delight
Swingin' on a Star (square)
Knave's Quadrille (square)
Haymaker's Jig
* Saratoga, NY 10/15
In case you hadn't noticed, not too many of these dances are very close
to home. These weekend trips mostly happened in the rain and drained me
pretty thoroughly. I was working with a great old-time duo this evening.
I really wanted to call squares, but my lack of practice, low energy
after the long trip and the previous bad experience convinced me to
chicken out. The interesting thing about this dance was that even though
there was a small percentage of beginners, they were all concentrated in
one line (the other line was the "center" set). If they had mixed a
little more, I could have called more interesting choreography, but
instead had to call to the "weaker" set. I had my first experience with
a woman who was bound and determined to tell me how I taught something
"wrong" during my beginners workshop. This is where Joseph Pinmentel's
workshop helped me a lot to not get into an argument with her and thank
her for her feedback. The program was very similar to Mystic, but
without squares and I was able to do one with a hey later in the
evening. I'm finding that I like ending with Haymaker's Jig (or Lady of
the Lake if you wish) since it works well with a small crowd.
* Hawthorn Valley Farm Benefit Dance 10/29 Amble Dance Hall, Mellenville, NY
Much better weather for this trip. I lengthened it by attending David
Millstone's callers workshop that day as well. The workshop was
wonderful and it was great sharing what I've learned with the new group
that he's teaching. I hope that some of them will join this list and
participate in the discussion.
The dance, since it was a benefit, drew some experienced dancers, but
more raw beginners. This was an interesting mix and I had a hard time
choosing between my easy contras and family style dances. I started off
the evening with Haste to the Wedding. People seemed to enjoy dancing
it, but there was little interest in the clapping. That told me to lean
more towards the easy contra side for the rest of the evening. The band
had not played for very many contras and we had some difficulty with
communicating early on. I didn't have the language to give them the
information they needed, so they played what they wanted and I called
what I wanted. Not a great evening, but it worked out. Most of the crowd
were teens and twenties who were dancing wildly and didn't care about
being on time for the next figure. I found that they had so much trouble
getting in and out of swings that I started calling dances that only had
swings of 10 or more beats. That also kept the piece count down and made
it easier for everyone. The organizers, though, had a great time and
felt that it worked out better than the other benefit dance they had
where the caller only called family dances and the crowd was hungry for
more interesting choreography.
Haste to the Wedding
Broken Sixpence (I taught this one during the workshop and I think that
it helped)
The Baby Rose
La Bastringue (went particularly well)
Spring Fever (not so great)
Cadence by Byron Ricker (everyone got into this one)
Midwest Folklore (mostly young people in this one, they had a blast)
Frederick Contra (everyone enjoyed this one - only 8 people so I grabbed
a partner and dance up and down the hall with my cordless so we had 2
foursomes dancing every time through)
At this point the organizer felt that too many people had left, so we
cut the evening short.
* Cordless Microphone
As longtime readers will know, I have been investigating buying a
cordless microphone for a few months now. One of the best pieces of
advice that I got from a sound man (during the Square Dance course at
Pinewoods) was to rent different microphones and see how you sound in
each one. I found a local shop that would rent microphones and tried out
the Shure PGX system with both the Beta 58 and the SM58 mics. I rented
them for the Mystic dance and the Saratoga dance. I decided that I liked
the Beta 58 and how easy the PGX is to set up and use. I was looking
forward to a lot of gigs in the near future, so I bought the setup that
I was using. They even credited the rental fees towards the purchase. I
bought it earlier than I planned, but I have enough gigs coming up to
pay for the purchase (not counting other expenses!). 8^)
Whew!!! Congratulations on reaching the end of another long winded
e-mail. I kinda accelerated as I went along there. So much for being brief.
One of the problems with traveling so far to dances has been the
inability for my friends (especially my calling friends) to come to the
dances and provide feedback. The organizers that I ask all tell me that
I did great, but don't have any suggestions about what I could be
working on. Some of it I know: squares, beginners workshop, material for
high percentages of beginners, etc. What I don't know is how my stage
presence has evolved. I am looking forward to Ralph Page in January.
There is usually an open mic. session and there is a caller who is
dedicated to providing feedback to the participants. Last year Tony
Parks gave me great information to work with.
OK, I'm tapped out now. I hope you've enjoyed this installment. More
adventures to come!
Happy calling and happy dancing!!
Chris Weiler
Hi everyone,
I've been asked to do a workshop in an afternoon before a regular evening
dance that will offer tips on how more experienced dancers can help the
newbies on the dance floor, and how dancers can be better partners. I'm
anticipating that the audience will be regular dancers, but some may be new
dancers.
I've chatted about this with one of my fellow local callers and came up with
some good ideas. I'm specifically looking for exercises or things I can
focus a dance on. A couple of ideas already hatched are encouraging the
dancers to communicate only using eye contact or hand gestures, and
discouraging pulling/pushing behavior. A specific exercise would be setting
up hands 4, having the ones cross over and then asking all the number 2
couples to leave the room while the dance is taught. I would then call the
dance as a no walk through and encourage the number 1 couples to help the
other couple through the dance.
Tips for being better partners would definitely involve helping the newbies
but would also include giving weight, handing off your partner at the end of
the figure, good contact (i.e. wrist position for allemandes, swing holds,
to twirl or not to twirl...).
Does anyone have any specific exercises that emphasize these ideas ? I'm
anticipating that I'll discuss these points with the group but would like to
keep my yakking to a minimum and focus on demonstrating these things with
the dances I use. I suspect that many of you have done workshops of this
nature, but this is a new thing for me. I'd appreciate all feedback as I
know there is a wealth of knowledge in this group.
Thanks very much in advance.
Bev
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The Witful Turnip wturnip(a)sympatico.ca
"I'm 40-fucking-5, and I've got nothing to hide !"
- Samantha Jones (Sex in the City)
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hey bev,
i can think of a couple of things from the outset.
on the one hand, anyone who is going to be at the workshop will
be the choir, and thus they're the ones who least need the
preaching, right? so, be aware of that as you're doing your
thing. at the same time, maybe the best use of these folks will
be to spread the meme around a bit -- figure out something to
tell or teach them that they can pass along to other
"experienced" dancers, who may not have come to the workshop for
any of a host of reasons (timing, other priorities, not
interested, didn't feel they needed or wanted the info, etc).
i think the best and simplest thing that an experienced dancer
can do for new folks (and this is something that i don't always
think or remember to do, myself...) is to *ask new people to
dance* -- consciously. if every experienced dancer asked just
one new dancer to dance once per evening, think how much better
new dancers' experience of the dance would be! once the sets
are forming, conversation about simple dance-related things -- a
smile, a question or two and some follow-up encouragement ("how
many times have you been dancing? wow, you're doing great! we
were all new once..."), and a few tips here and there can make
all the difference. not all (or even most) beginners have
enough chutzpah to ask an experienced dancer to dance, and so
this can make someone feel welcomed, included, and wanted.
> Tips for being better partners would definitely involve
> helping the newbies but would also include giving weight,
> handing off your partner at the end of the figure, good
contact
> (i.e. wrist position for allemandes, swing holds,
> to twirl or not to twirl...).
i think these are the most important questions, e.g. it's
amazing to me how few people have had "giving weight" explained
to them in a way that makes sense, and it truly seems to
separate good from not-so-good dancers, IMO.
> Does anyone have any specific exercises that emphasize these
> ideas ?
i don't have any specific ideas. i like the idea of maybe
picking a couple of dances that have a variety of figures or
transitions and breaking them down to show where new folks can
get tripped up. for example, anything in becket, things with a
ladies' chain on a diagonal, or heys, etc. are areas that are
confusing for beginners; and things that can be disorienting and
thus lead to someone's feeling like they're not doing it right.
i think it would also be good to help experienced folks learn to
(gently!) teach flourishes to those who seem to want to learn
them. no forcing twirls, but don't assume that they don't want
to do them, either -- if they see others doing them, they're
likely to be curious and want to give it a try themselves.
i hope it goes well.
melissa
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