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K&E - thanks, ? about substitution, still need help with B2/progressio n

by crunchymama＠juno.com

Thank you for all the responses! I'm excited to try the Rick Mohr 4f4. And I think I understand the Double Becket formation and the power turn well! I love the power turn; it's that butterfly whirl feeling I've been looking for, in a different format. So I'm looking at possibly calling K&E for a contra crowd- there are no EC dances in our area so there would be nowhere to carry over the knowledge. Would it be a crime against nature to teach N gypsy, N lt sh gypsy in place of the split and cast around to place? It seems like it would keep the dancers a bit more active and use their existing vocabulary- and I wouldn't spend time teaching a move we won't be using again any time soon. I'm sure there are a variety of opinions on this! And, I do still have questions about the way the progression works in B2. I can't seem to figure it out without adding some sliding, turning alone, twirling, or passing through. Here's the dance again and the progression Lark notated for me: K&E by Pat Shaw- formation Double Becket 1's are in the middle and progress down, 2's are on the ends and progress up A1: 1's split the 2's, cast back to place, end facing the other 1's(8) OR N gypsy (8) 1's only- Right hand star, back to your 2's (8) A2: 2's split the 1's and cast back to place (8) OR N l sh gypsy (8) Same four (1's w/ 2's): Left hand star (8) (L start the chain as they pass each other, 3/4 of the way through the star) B1: 1's only- Ladies chain with power turn - face out (8) Ones with the twos: Ladies chain (8) B2: Same four: Circle left 3/4 (8) 1's Circle left 3/4 and move down a little while 2's Swing and move up (8) Lark wrote: <snip> Okay, that's gotta have been even more confusing than you're used to. Try the "diagram" version of the Progression (Please look at this in Courier or another fixed-width font): Dance Turn 1: BAND 2M 1L 3M 4L 2L 1M 3L 4M 6M 5L 7M 8L 6L 5M 7L 8M Dance Turn 2: BAND 2L 2M 4L 4M (Out) 6M 1L 3M 8L 6L 1M 3L 8M 5M 5L 7M 7L (Out) Dance Turn 3: BAND 6M 2L 4M 8L 6L 2M 4L 8M 5M 1L 3M 7L 5L 1M 3L 7M <snip> Don't worry, the circles will get you back with your partner. The Circle Ls are both 3/4--i.e. until the "insides" are back on the inside of the set and can whirl around to take Circle L hands-4 with their partners. <end quote> At the end of B1, as a #1 lady, I've got a #1 gent in my right hand and a #2 on my left. If I circle 1/2 way, then let go of the #2 on my left hand and ooze to my left, I can get into a circle L with my partner on my left and the other 1's. After the second circle L 3/4, we're facing 1's still- so we could pass through (which would not be the progression shown in the diagram, since 1's are swapping sides, but would seem to work fine) OR we would california twirl to change direction and progress as shown. OR If we (1's and 2's) circle L a complete 3/4, I end up as a #1 back to back with my partner. If all then turn alone, my partner will be on the wrong side of me, so after the second circle L 3/4, we will need to twirl (would that be a star through or?) to swap places and directions. OR We circle a complete 3/4, 1's ending up back to back with P, and 1's twirl to swap (would that be a star through or?) which would put partners on the correct sides of each other- 1's circle left 3/4, we would need to pass through to follow the progression shown in the diagram, or california twirl to progress on the opposite side. I'm sure there may be another option on the progression that I'm missing, and maybe one that is CORRECT. I know there has to be something missing, since 1's need to end up facing 2's, not 1's. How have you danced it? And is the progression only within each line, or do the ones cross over each time through? Thanks again! -Alison Murphy ____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on discount teaching degrees programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iif8jdcdiRVPrDmL3YgqN9bA4t…

17 years

Questions for the callers

by Judith Simon Muse

Hi- My name is Judith Muse. I write a column for our local Contra Dance newsletter here in the Triangle area in North Carolina. My topic this time is callers - how they see their role, what they want dancers to know, what's the hardest/best part the about calling. You probably get the idea by now. Please share anything you would like dancers to hear. Also, if you want to be credited in the article, please let me know who you are. Thanks a lot, Judith

17 years

? on 4 face 4 and double becket dances

by crunchymama＠juno.com

I've been calling a couple of 4 face 4 dances to good reviews- Mark Widmer's "This Dance Has No Title" - the variation by Bob Isaacs- and Seth Tepfer's "Color Outside the Lines" One of our regular dancers who is into the 4f4's suggested I look up Pat Shaw's K&E. Some searching revealed the steps, but I have no idea what it means. Anyone with experience calling this dance, or who could explain double becket formation, how the splitting and casting off works, or the power turn on the ladies chain? Also does anyone else have a favorite 4f4 formation dance to share? TIA! K&E by Pat Shaw- formation Double Becket 1's are in the middle and progress down, 2's are on the ends and progress up A1: 1's split the 2's, cast back to place, end facing the other 1's(8) 1's only- Right hand star, back to your 2's (8) A2: 2's split the ones and cast back to place (8) Same four (1's w/ 2's): Left hand star (8) B1: 1's only- Ladies chain with power turn - face out (8) Ones with the twos: Ladies chain (8) B2: Same four: Circle left ¾ (8) 1's Circle left ¾ and move down a little while 2's Swing and move up (8) -Alison Murphy Memphis TN "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~Samuel Adams HTTP://CAMPAIGNFORLIBERTY.COM ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on nursing degrees, up to $150/hour http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iifeLf98nOEotpyRXnRMdo677d…

17 years

K&E explanation

by Lark-Aeryn Speyer

I LOVE this dance! I've danced it several times and remember it well, though I have not personally called it. It's a favorite of the Ann Arbor (MI) English Country dance community. K&E by Pat Shaw- formation Double Becket 1's are in the middle and progress down, 2's are on the ends and progress up A1: 1's split the 2's, cast back to place, end facing the other 1's(8) 1's only- Right hand star, back to your 2's (8) A2: 2's split the ones and cast back to place (8) Same four (1's w/ 2's): Left hand star (8) B1: 1's only- Ladies chain with power turn - face out (8) Ones with the twos: Ladies chain (8) B2: Same four: Circle left ? (8) 1's Circle left ? and move down a little while 2's Swing and move up (8) I believe the formation is more often known as "Vermont Tempest" formation. You can also think of it (if you're a good New Englander ;-) as "Cribbage board" progression--"Up the outside, down the inside." "Double Becket" may be misleading, because the "half" of the set on the caller's right is progressing clockwise while the "half" of the set on the caller's left is progressing counter-clockwise. Okay, that's gotta have been even more confusing than you're used to. Try the "diagram" version of the Progression (Please look at this in Courier or another fixed-width font): Dance Turn 1: BAND 2M 1L 3M 4L 2L 1M 3L 4M 6M 5L 7M 8L 6L 5M 7L 8M Dance Turn 2: BAND 2L 2M 4L 4M (Out) 6M 1L 3M 8L 6L 1M 3L 8M 5M 5L 7M 7L (Out) Dance Turn 3: BAND 6M 2L 4M 8L 6L 2M 4L 8M 5M 1L 3M 7L 5L 1M 3L 7M ... Got it? Good. (Cue Danny Kaye ...) Next question: splitting & casting off. The dance starts with "insides" (your description's 1s) facing (as couples) their respective "outsides" (your description's 2s). You could say the "insides" are dancing the path of a mirror do-si-do--but the "outsides" just get out of the way instead of fully participating, and the "insides" are always moving forward. In other words, the "insides" dance forward shoulder-to-shoulder, the "ousides" move apart from each other, then (*behind* or outside the "outsides") the "insides" turn away from each other, around their respective "outsides" (gent 'round lady, lady 'round gent) and dance back into the middle to face the other "inside" couple. The A2 Left-hand Star is VERY IMPORTANT. The "inside" ladies must keep in mind that they are looking in the B1 to chain across with the other "inside" lady--this means they actually want to start chaining when they have only starred about 3/4. Power turn: another great invention. It's simply a courtesy turn+180degrees. Inside Gent takes the "inside neighbor" lady in courtesy turn position and they guide each other around as per usual to face the opposite couple--and PAST that position they keep turning until their backs are to the opposite couple (their partners), and, in this case, facing the "outsides". Note that the "inside" ladies are now with their "inside neighbor" gents and about to chain AWAY from them to an "outside neighbor" gent. Don't worry, the circles will get you back with your partner. The Circle Ls are both 3/4--i.e. until the "insides" are back on the inside of the set and can whirl around to take Circle L hands-4 with their partners. I'm happy to mail you (USPS) a full diagram of the dance if this isn't enough. Or if there's a place on the list where I could upload a scan, that's okay, too. It's an awesome dance! Have fun! Lark Speyer -- "In this case, we may waive formalities. We really haven't time. This is to-day, but it will soon be to-morrow, and then we may be very different people, and in some other country." -- Willa Cather, _The Song of the Lark_

17 years

Fwd: Can you do a Tropical Contra dance in a month?

by Lark-Aeryn Speyer

Holy cow. I think this is real--a write-a-dance-expressing-science contest. And I think Contra would be an excellent dance medium ... Good luck, everyone! :-) Lark Speyer ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jon Leonard <jbwl(a)hushmail.com> Date: Oct 9, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: Can you do a Tropical Contra dance in a month? To: Lark-Aeryn Speyer <laspeyer(a)gmail.com> http://gonzolabs.org/dance/ Love, Dad -- "In this case, we may waive formalities. We really haven't time. This is to-day, but it will soon be to-morrow, and then we may be very different people, and in some other country." -- Willa Cather, _The Song of the Lark_

17 years

Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 5

by Linda Leslie

In my cards, I have the name of the dance by David Smukler as "Pining for You". I will be glad to get in touch with David and ask the actual name... Also, for Mad Robins: Who goes into the middle first depends on the dance. I have about a dozen dances with this lovely move, and who goes into the middle is determined by what the movement is just before. Cheers! Linda > > > i've been searching in vain for a dance called "Into the Pines". i > remember > dancing to it almost a year ago and havent stopped thinking about > how great > it was since...but i cant seem to locate it. Does anyone else > recognize > this name? > all my thanks, > Rachel > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 07:48:33 -0400 > From: "Beth Parkes" <ebay(a)hands4.com> > Subject: Re: [Callers] searching for a dance... > To: <rachel.shapiro05(a)gmail.com>, "'Caller's discussion list'" > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Message-ID: <002301c92872$a19a3330$e4ce9990$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I assume you mean In the Pines by David Smuckler: > > In the Pines > David Smuckler, Improper Contra > A1 Gypsy neighbor, Swing neighbor > A2 Long lines forward & back, Gents turn left 1 ? > B1 Balance & swing partner > B2 Circle left ?, With Neighbor, roll away with a half shashay, Cross > trail thru > > Beth >>

17 years

Spelling Police

by Chrissy Fowler

Hi all, Spelling Police reporting in here, lest anyone try to do a search for David's brilliant work as compiler, editor and producer of the syllabus for the Ralph Page Dance Legacy Weekend (or his fine website or any other of his worthy contributions to dance nirvana) and end up stymied due to misspelled surnames. For the record, David Smukler has no C. Smuckers Jam has a C. Mukluks ... no C. Muck boots ... with a C. Chrissy Fowler (with a C) :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.belfastflyingshoes.org home 207-338-0979 cell 603-498-3506 _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/

17 years

searching for a dance...

by Rachel Shapiro

i've been searching in vain for a dance called "Into the Pines". i remember dancing to it almost a year ago and havent stopped thinking about how great it was since...but i cant seem to locate it. Does anyone else recognize this name? all my thanks, Rachel

17 years

name of dance

by Tom Hinds

I just learned a great contra that has great flow. I'd like to know if anyone knows the title or composer: A1 gypsy neighbor, mad robin. A2 one half pousett, hey (about 3/4 hey) men pass left. B1 swing partner B2 ladies chain, star left. thanks. On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:00 PM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote: > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > callers(a)sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > callers-request(a)sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > callers-owner(a)sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Another Name That Dance (crunchymama(a)juno.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:00:04 GMT > From: "crunchymama(a)juno.com" <crunchymama(a)juno.com> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Name That Dance > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Message-ID: <20080928.180004.26347.0(a)webmail07.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > I am relieved to hear that it is in fact "Cure for the Claps"- > locally it's been called as "Cure for the Clap" and in spite > enjoying dance I've always shuddered at the name. Never made the > connection to the clapping on petronella till now. :o) > > -Alison Murphy > > > > > -- richgoss(a)comcast.net wrote: > Cure for the Claps - Bob Isaacs > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Walter <walterdaves(a)alltel.net> > >> So, what's the name of this one? I saw it on YouTube, from All Soles >> Dance, with the Great Bear Trio playing** >> >> * * >> >> *A1: Balance the ring; Petronella twirl, Swing partner >> A2: Balance the ring, Petronella twirl, Swing neighbor >> B1: Down the hall, turn single, return >> B2: Circle left 3 places, balance the ring, California twirl >> * >> >> Thanks, >> >> Walter Daves >> ** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Click to become a designer and quit your boring job. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/ > Ioyw6iieWt4vxNBfVPt8enDYApM1TsouH40DE7PnSKs2vTlWvpi5YP/ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > End of Callers Digest, Vol 49, Issue 10 > ***************************************

17 years

Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 1

by Sargon de Jesus

Just a quick side note, "poussette" does come from the verb "pousser" (push) in French, but the term probably comes from the word poussette itself, which is a baby carriage. I think is a rather nice image for what goes on the figure. And it's a fun little tidbit to share with the dancers too! :) -Sargon On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:00 PM, <callers-request(a)sharedweight.net> wrote: > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > callers(a)sharedweight.net > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:13:33 -0500 > From: "Martha Edwards" <meedwards(a)westendweb.com> > Subject: Re: [Callers] name of dance > To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Message-ID: > <7d8d864a0809301213s4dc6d37agd86503103c2e9446(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Drat! I only saw the first post. Sorry for being late to the dance and > jumping in. It's still got strange timing, not that it matters, since the > dance is so flowy. > > In a poussette, someone "pushes" (french: poussez) and someone pulls > (not-french: poulet :-). In Joyride, the woman pushes, or the man pulls, > taking his partner with him. The couples lead out four steps, then, > slightly > to the left, back in four steps (with the woman backing up) to trade places > with the other couple in the set of four. > > There are other poussettes, like the draw poussette, where the man (or the > woman) keeps on backing up while the couples trade places, rather like a > toy > train going around the christmas tree. > > M > E > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I just learned a great contra that has great flow. I'd like to know if > > anyone knows the title or composer: > > > > A1 gypsy neighbor, mad robin. > > > > A2 one half pousett, hey (about 3/4 hey) men pass left. > > > > B1 swing partner > > > > B2 ladies chain, star left. > > > > thanks. > >

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