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by JoLaine Jones-Pokorney

Hi - It was mentioned that Wordpress, Joomla, etc are limiting to those that are "real" web designers. It really isn't. I work for the University of Florida and we are taking our entire web presence - several hundred pages - into Wordpress. Our army of web designers are in agreement that this is a good move and they can do everything they've been doing, but easier and more well organized. I am not one of those web designers so I can't answer anyone's technical questions, but I know that you are not limited to the templates provided. -- JoLaine Jones-Pokorney "We are as gods and might as well get good at it!" - Stewart Brand

13 years, 9 months

New list

by Seth Seeger

Hi everyone, Wow! That's an overwhelming response! Chris and I will have a chance to talk this evening, and then we'll let everyone know what the plan is. Seth

13 years, 9 months

contra dance webmasters unite! (?)

by Andy Shore

I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and share links, etc. I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/ and I'm always looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on Facebook. In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results yield the best information about our beloved activity. As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the name and author of the dance being done! Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. Let me know what you think! /Andy Shore http://andyshore.com/ http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller << like me on Facebook!

13 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Webmaster's ListServ

by Walter

Count me in. I'm not a webmaster but I am a co-producer of a dance, and a caller and musician. Walter Daves On 9/15/2011 8:17 PM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote: > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > callers(a)sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > callers-request(a)sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > callers-owner(a)sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) (Nick Cuccia) > 2. Re: contradance webmasters unite! (P. Campbell) > 3. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) (Brian Hamshar) > 4. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) (Delia Clark) > 5. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) (Don Heinold) > 6. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) > 7. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) (Liz and Bill) > 8. Re: contra dance webmasters unite! (?) (Laur) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:10:28 -0700 > From: Nick Cuccia<cuccia(a)mosswood-associates.com> > To: Caller's discussion list<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID:<4E725BB4.2020708(a)mosswood-associates.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 09/15/2011 10:44 AM, Andy Shore wrote: >> Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. > Andy, count me in! > > --Nick (designer and former developer/webmaster/content guy, > http://www.bacds.org/) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:16:18 -0400 > From: "P. Campbell"<countrydancecaller(a)gmail.com> > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Subject: Re: [Callers] contradance webmasters unite! > Message-ID: > <CAKizgJuOadEDg8HpBh0F+cSQSWPf75-PJfzLnZt7YgmuGhO9PQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> I'd be interested - but what I do is slightly different, I think, though >> there's a lot of overlap. > > >> Patricia Campbell > > >> www.countrydancecaller.com > > https://www.facebook.com/CountryDanceCaller -<< like me on Facebook! > > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Andy Shore<square.a.shore(a)gmail.com> >> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:44:12 -0400 >> Subject: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) >> I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form >> an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators >> (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance >> related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and >> share links, etc. >> >> I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/ and I'm always >> looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links >> about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" >> pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on >> Facebook. >> >> >> In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content >> is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and >> vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for >> both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's >> festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing >> relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results >> yield the best information about our beloved activity. >> >> As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the >> name and author of the dance being done! >> >> >> Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can >> convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list >> for this. >> >> Let me know what you think! >> /Andy Shore >> http://andyshore.com/ >> http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller<< like me on Facebook! >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:39:07 PDT > From: "Brian Hamshar"<bhamshar(a)yahoo.com> > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID:<961880.33522.qm(a)smtp110-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Andy, > > Sure, I'd join and hopefully contribute! > > Brian Hamshar > > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:44:24 pm > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > From: "Andy Shore"<square.a.shore(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > > I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and share links, etc. > > I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/ and I'm always looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on Facebook. > > > In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results yield the best information about our beloved activity. > > As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the name and author of the dance being done! > > > Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. > > Let me know what you think! > /Andy Shore > http://andyshore.com/ > http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller<< like me on Facebook! > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:56:42 -0400 > From: Delia Clark<deliaclark8(a)gmail.com> > To: Caller's discussion list<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID:<27E1A998-C39A-4289-BC85-33C5D17B6332(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I might be more of a lurker than a contributor, but would DEFINITELY appreciate the ideas for our facebook page, etc. > Thanks! > > > On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Brian Hamshar wrote: > >> Hey Andy, >> >> Sure, I'd join and hopefully contribute! >> >> Brian Hamshar >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:44:24 pm >> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net >> From: "Andy Shore"<square.a.shore(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) >> >> I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and share links, etc. >> >> I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/ and I'm always looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on Facebook. >> >> >> In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results yield the best information about our beloved activity. >> >> As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the name and author of the dance being done! >> >> >> Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. >> >> Let me know what you think! >> /Andy Shore >> http://andyshore.com/ >> http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller<< like me on Facebook! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > <>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<> > > Delia Clark > PO Box 45 > Taftsville, VT 05073 > 802-457-2075 > deliaclark8(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Don Heinold<dtheinold(a)yahoo.com> > To: Caller's discussion list<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID: > <1316120435.63382.YahooMailClassic(a)web160304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I;ll join! > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Nick Cuccia<cuccia(a)mosswood-associates.com> wrote: > > > From: Nick Cuccia<cuccia(a)mosswood-associates.com> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > To: "Caller's discussion list"<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 4:10 PM > > > On 09/15/2011 10:44 AM, Andy Shore wrote: >> Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. > Andy, count me in! > > --Nick (designer and former developer/webmaster/content guy, http://www.bacds.org/) > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:46:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing > <winston(a)slac.stanford.edu> > To: "Caller's discussion list"<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID:<01O633PJTRRICO9ZU3(a)SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii > > Andy - > > I'm certainly interested. (BACDS sponsors English and contra; not everybody on > the web committee is a caller, and having ideas about content, news about new > content, etc, disseminated on a separate list would be great.) > > Thanks for thinking of this! > > -- Alan > =============================================================================== > Alan Winston --- WINSTON(a)SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =============================================================================== > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:13:44 +1200 > From: Liz and Bill<staf186(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz> > To: Caller's discussion list<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID:<4E7294B8.50208(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Good idea Andy. I'd be interested - > I vote for webcontent(a)sharedweight.net > > Cheers, Bill Baritompa > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:17:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Laur<lcpgr(a)yahoo.com> > To: Caller's discussion list<callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > Message-ID: > <1316132225.7015.YahooMailNeo(a)web121706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I too would sign up! > > I haven't worked with web design for a number of years but I've offered my assistance for our local community website (whine enough about what's out there and someone will offer you the work...whether you wanted it or not). > > ? > Laurie > Grand Rapids, MI > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Andy Shore<square.a.shore(a)gmail.com> >> To: callers(a)sharedweight.net >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:44 PM >> Subject: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) >> >> I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and share links, etc. >> >> I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/? and I'm always looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" pages).? I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on Facebook. >> >> >> In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated.? Sharing relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results yield the best information about our beloved activity. >> >> As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the name and author of the dance being done! >> >> >> Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. >> >> Let me know what you think! >> /Andy Shore >> http://andyshore.com/ >> http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller?<< like me on Facebook! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >> >> > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > End of Callers Digest, Vol 85, Issue 20 > *************************************** >

13 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite!

by JOSEPH KWIATKOWSKI

Don't we have enough "Yes" votes yet? Put me down as yet another... Joe Kwiatkowski On 9/15/2011 1:44 PM, Andy Shore wrote: > >> I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to >> form an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content >> creators (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining >> contra dance related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and >> ideas and share links, etc. >> >> I created the website http://**southfloridacontradance.com/<http://southfloridacontradance.com/> and I'm always looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" >> page) and links about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and >> "Dance Links" pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" >> page on Facebook. >> >> >> In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content >> is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and >> vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for >> both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's >> festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing >> relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results >> yield the best information about our beloved activity. >> >> As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the >> name and author of the dance being done! >> >> >> Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can >> convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list >> for this. >> >> Let me know what you think! >> /Andy Shore >> http://andyshore.com/ >> http://facebook.com/AndyShore.**Caller<http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller><< >> like me on Facebook! >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers<http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers<http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> >

13 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?)

by Brian Hamshar

Hey Andy, Sure, I'd join and hopefully contribute! Brian Hamshar -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:44:24 pm To: callers(a)sharedweight.net From: "Andy Shore" <square.a.shore(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and share links, etc. I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/ and I'm always looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on Facebook. In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results yield the best information about our beloved activity. As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the name and author of the dance being done! Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list for this. Let me know what you think! /Andy Shore http://andyshore.com/ http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller << like me on Facebook! _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers

13 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] contradance webmasters unite!

by P. Campbell

> > I'd be interested - but what I do is slightly different, I think, though > there's a lot of overlap. > Patricia Campbell > www.countrydancecaller.com https://www.facebook.com/CountryDanceCaller - << like me on Facebook! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andy Shore <square.a.shore(a)gmail.com> > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:44:12 -0400 > Subject: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?) > I've been wondering if there would be enough interest (and traffic) to form > an email list for contra dance website webmasters and other content creators > (e.g., people posting videos to youtube) and people maintaining contra dance > related "pages" on Facebook to discuss some of the issues and ideas and > share links, etc. > > I created the website http://southfloridacontradance.com/ and I'm always > looking for good videos to share (see the "Announcements" page) and links > about contra dancing (see the "What is Contra Dance?" and "Dance Links" > pages). I also help maintain the "South Florida Contradance" page on > Facebook. > > > In particular, I think that finding, generating, and sharing fresh content > is the kind of thing that will keep our web sites looking current and > vibrant and will spark interest. I also think it's important to design for > both the current dancer (when and where is tonight's dance or next month's > festival?) and be informative and welcoming to the uninitiated. Sharing > relevant, high quality links will also help make sure that search results > yield the best information about our beloved activity. > > As for folks posting to YouTube... as a caller, I often want to know the > name and author of the dance being done! > > > Respond to this thread and if there's enough interest, perhaps we can > convince the kind folks who run SharedWeight.net to start a new mailing list > for this. > > Let me know what you think! > /Andy Shore > http://andyshore.com/ > http://facebook.com/AndyShore.Caller << like me on Facebook! > > > > > >

13 years, 9 months

Seeking Caller for Trenton, Maine Contra this Saturday (9/17/11)

by George Marshall

Seeking Caller for Trenton, Maine Contra this Saturday (9/17/11) Hi everyone, I'm playing the Trenton Contra Dance in Maine this Saturday night on piano along with Brendan Carey Block on fiddle. It has come to my attention today that the organizers, having contacted seven or eight of the "usual suspects" up in that area, find themselves unable to find a caller for the dance, and I am hoping that my email might reach someone on the Shared Weight list who would be available and interested in calling for it. With regards to pay for the dance, there is unfortunately no guarantee (for the band or caller) but my impression is that the pay will at least be * something*, and that it's a really fun dance, though also one that tends to be on the small-medium side in attendance. Malcolm Sanders, one of the dance organizers, will be driving from Burlington, Vermont on Friday afternoon or evening and returning to Burlington sometime Sunday and could give a caller from that area a ride. I could theoretically give someone a ride from the Boston area but it would mean leaving early in the day on Friday and returning Sunday late afternoon (because Matching Orange -- me, Brendan, and Eric McDonald -- has gigs Friday night and Saturday afternoon, in addition to this Saturday night contra). If you are interested and can do this, please email me at eric.eid.reiner(a)gmail.com, or you can call me at 781-608-3442. However, I will be at a rehearsal from 7:00-10:00 p.m. tonight so if you want to respond in that timeframe, email is probably best. If you know of someone who would be a solid caller for a full 3-hour dance but isn't on Shared Weight, you are welcome to pass this email on to them. Thank you very much! Sincerely, Eric Eid-Reiner www.EricEid-Reiner.com George Marshall PO Box 602 Belchertown, MA 01007 TDV(a)wildasparagus.com 413-575-6283 Web site URL http://www.tropicaldancevacation.com

13 years, 9 months

Author? Contra House

by Jack Mitchell

Just picked up a new dance last night. Gaye had the title, but didn't know an author. Does anyone recognize this? Contra House - Becket A1 Gents lead full Hey (GL, NR, LL, PR, GL, NR...) On last pass, ladies catch LH, give RH to partner in short wave A2 Balance Wave, P Alle R 1/2; Gents Alle L 1/2, give RH to N Balance Wave; N Alle R 3/4 B2 New N B&S B2 Gents Alle L 1 1/2 P Sw

13 years, 9 months

Re Swinging

by John Sweeney

Thanks for the great discussion on swinging. My Maths/Physics is a bit rusty - it is 40 years since I studied it at Cambridge - so I am not going to get involved I that discussion. Yes, I know that a couple spinning around a shared axis is different from a single person spinning on their own axis, but there are a lot of things going on in that shared system. Hopefully I will meet some of you on a dance-floor somewhere, somewhen and maybe persuade you that the lady trying to reach the man's shoulder-blade is not a good idea - but obviously that is not going to happen through online discussion. So, please, if you do insist on telling the lady to try to reach the man's shoulder-blade, then please, please, please tell them that they absolutely do NOT have to press there - they just make a flexible frame with the hand resting lightly in the chosen place - centrifugal force will do the rest. :-) Thanks. Happy dancing, John John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574 http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive Events, Instructional DVDs and Interactive Maps http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent

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