Good points from Neal and Bev.
I'm curious now about the timing of the ladies casting over right shoulder
and entering the hey. It does seem like it would better fit the music.
RE: 3/8ths hey - there's a ton of dances with 3/8 hey called as half, as
the same hey can be different number of passes in different heys.
Anyway, now I really want to dance a star-cast-hey transition... :)
Ron
On Aug 11, 2016 3:57 PM, "Neal Schlein via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Isn't it actually a 3/8ths hey? ...Which is somewhat tricky to say: Three
Eights Hey For Four. Lots of numbers in there. Good enough reason to find
another explanation. ;-)
What I'm seeing about not simply writing it out as a hey is that the star
is causing the ladies to move forward into the men's position. From a
static perspective it is definitely a partial hey, but the women's momentum
will want to carry them too far forward and it'll become mush for anyone
not paying attention. Turning back to the right is nice flow, and to me
there's nothing wrong with writing things like that into the dance.
For example, I have long used a dance which cues the ladies to turn AWAY
from a star and swing the man behind them. Technically it is just a
u-turn, but every time I use that phrase three quarters of the ladies will
turn TOWARD the star (for a variety of reasons, including partner
"assistance"). It makes me cringe, because the dance is so much nicer if
they turn the other direction.
Neal
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I've had this dance for years and don't know who wrote it or what it's
called. Anyone know?
Duple, improper
A1 ladies chain up/down set to neighbor
Partner swing
A2 circle L 3 places
Neighbor swing
B1 long lines F & B
Ladies chain
B2 circle L 1 1/4
Rings of 4 balance, California twirl
-Amy
Hi Ron,
In my ever so humble opinion, I think your suggested notation of the A2b is
effectively the same thing. Jo's notation (I'll admit, I think I suggested)
was to specifically mention the ladies turn single, which I'm not sure is
obvious for some dancers when described as a half hey. I think either way
works equally. Your mileage may vary.
Hi Jim Thaxter, to address the question you sent to me directly (to explain
the spin right 1 1/2 to new neighbor in the A1) just in case anyone on this
list was wondering, while I can see how you might think that would put
people into a diamond pattern with men in the middle of the set facing into
their group (up/down) and women on the sides facing in (across), the intent
is that the last turn 1/2 is in place which puts you simply facing new
neighbors. Think of Cary Ravitz's Maliza's Magical Mystery Motion's B1a
figure. When I look at the way he notated it, after the petronella turn he
wrote "and turn alone to face a new neighbor". That was Jo's intention
here.
Thanks also to Chris Page for emailing me directly.
You folks rock! :-)
Bev
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>From: Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
>To: Bev Bernbaum <wturnip(a)sympatico.ca>
>Cc: callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Is this dance already written?
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>The A2b: why not just "gents pull by L to start 1/2 a hey (GL, NR, LL, -) ?
>
>Best,
>Ron Blechner
>
>>On Aug 3, 2016 11:18 PM, "The Witful Turnip via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I just spent the weekend with Jo Mortland of Chicago, who wrote the
>> dance below. She asked if there was a way to check if it, or something
>> similar, was already written and I mentioned this list. Jo's not a
>> subscriber but asked if I'd post it and report back. Please let me
>> know. Thanks, Bev
>>
>> Dancing with a Pirate - Jo Mortland
>> Counterclockwise Becket
>>
>> Begins in a ring of four
>> A1
>> Balance, spin right 1-1/2 to new Neighbors Balance, spin right (Lady
>> is on gent's left)
>>
>> A2
>> Hands across LH star
>> Gents pull by L to opposite side
>> While Ladies turn single to R
>> Ladies cross passing left
>>
>> B1
>> P B&S (opposite side of set)
>>
>> B2
>> LLFB
>> R&L thru, to original side of set
>> End in a ring of 4
Hi all,
I just spent the weekend with Jo Mortland of Chicago, who wrote the dance
below. She asked if there was a way to check if it, or something similar,
was already written and I mentioned this list. Jo's not a subscriber but
asked if I'd post it and report back. Please let me know. Thanks,
Bev
Dancing with a Pirate - Jo Mortland
Counterclockwise Becket
Begins in a ring of four
A1
Balance, spin right 1-1/2 to new Neighbors
Balance, spin right
(Lady is on gent's left)
A2
Hands across LH star
Gents pull by L to opposite side
While Ladies turn single to R
Ladies cross passing left
B1
P B&S (opposite side of set)
B2
LLFB
R&L thru, to original side of set
End in a ring of 4
I recently called a wedding dance in a tiny church (the only building left standing after a plague killed off everyone in the village hundreds of years ago!). We managed to clear a 3 x 5 yard area (but even that had dogs and sitting people intruding into the space!).
Fortunately it was a small wedding!
We had 20 people dancing in that space – very crowded – but they all had great fun!
No, we didn’t do any contras!
For a wedding, you use the space you have and make it fun.
Happy dancing,
John
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Friends,
I have been hire to call a wedding with 145 attendees and 15 known contra
dancers. The bride and groom are insisting on modern contras.
I have never thought about floor space, what is the typical requirement for
a line of twenty couples?
Any very easy duple improper dances to recommend? I plan on using "Family
Contra" and "Jefferson and Lincoln".
Thanls,
Rich
Hi, Rich. I can't answer your question about space. But I do have one suggestion about dancers. How about doing a simple Sicilian Circle dance to introduce the concept of modern contra dance progression? Good luck!
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------ Original message------From: Rich Sbardella via Callers Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2016 9:02 AMTo: Caller's discussion list;Cc: Subject:[Callers] Floor Space Requirement
Friends,
I have been hire to call a wedding with 145 attendees and 15 known contra dancers. The bride and groom are insisting on modern contras.
I have never thought about floor space, what is the typical requirement for a line of twenty couples?
Any very easy duple improper dances to recommend? I plan on using "Family Contra" and "Jefferson and Lincoln".
Thanls,Rich
Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
just now, below.
Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
Thanks,
Don
Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
A1
LT Diag R&L Thru
Ladies Chain Straight Across
A2
Star Left
Star Right
B1
Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
B2
Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
A1
LT Diag R&L Thru
Ladies Chain Straight Across
A2
Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
Neighbor Swing
B1
Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
B2
Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
*Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
one...
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
> What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
personally dislike dance programs where
> every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes Id like to pay attention to
the partner Im dancing with and not
> everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
dont have to squeeze two swings into
> everything.
That's exactly what I think, and I'm so pleased to hear an American say the
same thing!
Colin Hume (currently in Ann Arbor, MI where I'm calling a workshop of
Advanced Contras & Squares on Saturday)
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