Hi all,
We are thinking of doing Levi Jackson Rag (Pat Shaw) at our next dance and
were wondering what tempo you played it at? If you have numbers (i.e. 100,
or 110 or 120 beats per min), great. If you have time check out this link
on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxd8Rp3eAuI . Seems slow to me,
especially judging from the way the dancers are moving.
Thanks,
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
Sylvia suggests that
"We should follow the tempo in the Assembly Players CD Levi Jackson. Nic
Broadbridge is the leader of that group and worked closely with Pat Shaw who
wrote the dance."
I am not sure that I agree. This might be the preferred speed in Scotland,
or the UK, or now. It says nothing, however, about the speed that Pat
wanted or expected it to be played back in 1974.
My first experience of dancing Levi Jackson Rag was to the calling of Pat
Shaw, in London, and although this was over 30 years ago, I am certain that
it was slower than generally done today. As well as working with the
Assembly Players, Pat also worked closely and regularly with the Kenton
Ramblers, a London-based 3 piece band led by the late Sheila Mason. As well
as being the mother of one of the dancers in our university dance group,
Sheila lived just around the corner from me and was a regular baby sitter.
We had many musical and dance-based conversations, including about Levi
Jackson Rag. If I recollect correctly, Sheila was the 1st person to play
the tune for Pat, if not in the world, at least in the UK. She always
complained that people played it much too fast and that it should be slower
and 'swing'. That is certainly how the Kenton Ramblers played it for me.
Of course, when you play it more slowly it becomes more obvious whether the
musician has actually hit all the notes correctly! I am thinking about
112-114bpm.
Michael Barraclough
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We should follow the tempo in the Assembly Players CD "Levi Jackson". Nic
Broadbridge is the leader of that group and worked closely with Pat Shaw who
wrote the dance. Pat has passed away but what better reference could we get
than by listening to Nic's recording. It is faster than the you tube
selection first cited, 29 seconds for one rendition.
Sylvia Miskoe, Concord, NH
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I've heard fiddler/caller Steve Hickman describe the pivot at the end of the
pass through as "turning as a yoke of oxen." That is, use your nearest
shoulders as the pivot point and make a 180-degree left turn. I've never
taught using that phrase, so I can't offer first-person feedback, but
dancers might not take kindly to bovine comparisons.
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I believe I can shed a bit more light on Carmen's Garments. There are 3
versions:
1. Original "Carmen's Hat" by Kathy Anderson composed sometime prior to
June 1992. I do not think this dance was published.
2. Variation by Paul Balliet "Carmen's Scarf" composed Nov. 1993 and
published 1997. See below.
3. Variation by Lisa Greenleaf "Carmen's Dance."
In June of 1992, I danced "Carmen's Hat" in Columbus Ohio. Kathy
Anderson, who composed it, also called it. I enjoyed the "bumpsy daisy"
swing, but wanted a dance with the swings on the side of the set. I
composed "Carmen's Scarf," which was published in Twirling Dervish
Returns (1997) with acknowledgment to Kathy Anderson's dance. I call it
ocassionally. It works well to loosen up a hall, and generally would
not run as long as other dances.
Carmen's Scarf
A1 Neighbor bumpsy daisy swing
A2 Half promenade, ladies chain across set
B1 Pass through across the set, and swing partner
B2 Circle left three quarters, balance the circle, pass through up or
down the set to progress.
I do not have Kathy's original dance recorded, but I suspect that the
below is correct.
Regards, Paul Balliet
Lisa Greenleaf [1]laleaf at verizon.net
Wed Nov 19 23:48:00 EST 2008
(portion omitted)...
The original idea was Kathy Anderson's Carmen's Hat, and then I wrote
Carmen's Contra.
Lisa
From: circleleft at uninets.net (John C. McIntire)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:01:26 -0400
Hi Folks,
A dance titled Carmen's Hat, by Kathy Anderson, appeared in my dance
collection as early as April 1997. I don't know where I collected it
but I use it vary sparingly as the action is oriented up & down the
line more than across. The figures go as follows:
duple improper contra formation
A1 Star Left 1X
Circle Right 3/4 (end facing Partner on Gent's home
side)
A2 Clap own hands 2x and with Neighbor bump 2x / Neighbor
Swing (in center of set) End facing Partner up or down hall
B1 Ladies Chain Along the line to Partner
Promenade along the line ( Gents pass left) to original
place
B2 Pass thru same Neighbors (up or down) to progressed places
and Partner Swing in center of set. End Facing New Neighbors.
The Lisa Greenleaf version which I have noted as "Carmen's Hat"
{correctly identified as "Carmen's Contra" } showed up in my cards
sometime by July, 2003. Again, I don't have a source noted. It is
pretty much what has been discussed.
duple improper contra formation
A1 Lines F & B
Ladies Allmd Left 1 1/2
A2 Partner B & S
B1 Circle Left 3/4
Neighbor D.S.D. 1 1/4
B2 Clap 2x Bump 2x with Neighbor & Swing Neighbor.
Of course the whole thing could be turned into a Becket dance by
starting at B1. Perhaps Lisa G. will pitch in her 2 cents worth. Thanks
to Lisa for making the dance more accessible. It is a fun change of
pace.
Cheers, John
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Heavens! Beth Parkes, thank you! That is the clearest, simplest, and yet most complete illustration of crooked tunes I have ever come across. And the explainee don't need to know a thing about beats, bars, phrases or time signatures or any other music background. Wow!
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Best get some recordings of Quebecois to see what's up.
Any tune that departs from the usual 4x32 form can be called "crooked". One of the ways that I have Quebecois musicians usually make a tune crooked is by playing the introductory notes of a tune in its own measure instead of grouping them in the last measure of the tune.
Think of the Star Spangled Banner. If you were to sing the first stanza over and over again, you'd sing it like:
LAN-AND OF the | FRE-EE AND the | HOME OF THE | BRAVE ___ OH-oh | SAY CAN YOU
A Quebecois musician would do this:
LAN-AND OF the | FRE-EE AND the | HOME OF THE | BRAVE ___ ___ | ___ ___ OH-oh } SAY CAN YOU
but they'd do it with jigs and reels. I have worked with musicians that swear up and down they are playing straight tunes when they actually are not. If you are unsure, it would be best if you can do a dry run with the musicians before the dance to alert them of your needs. If the musician is flexible, they can do what you need.
Good luck!
Hi all,
I am super excited about calling the Montreal dance in March; the
band is an amazing Quebecois trio. I have heard of crooked tunes, but
don't understand the concept fully. Can someone explain? How does it
impact calling? How likely am I to encounter it? Anything else you
can think of that I might appreciate knowing about this genre of music?
Thanks!
Nancy Turner
Waitsfield Vermont
Thanks again to those who advised me on my dance-leadership presentation!
I'm satisfied with the experience considering its weird cross-purpose (e.g.
I was hoping to intrigue a few of them for dancing, but really didn't have
time to provide them with more than a tiny peek into the whole concept
thereof, and what I was actually being evaluated on was "myself as a
leader").
Here's what I finally wound up teaching them--slightly revised again from
what I sent out the other day.
*****
"Bare to the Bone"
Lark-Aeryn Speyer, 2009
Circle MIXER
A (verse)
1-2 Circle L
3-4 Circle R, face partner
5-6 step R & honor pt, step L & honor pt
7-8 2-hand turn partner, face the center
B (chorus)
1-4 forward & back (into the center) *twice*, face partner
5-6 2 changes grand chain (4 counts each), beginning R to partner
7-8 meet NEW partner (the 3rd person) with a 2-hand turn, face center
*****
My musician (a fiddling classmate) and I did not have time to practice just
with the two of us--I didn't even actually get to hear her play the tune all
the way through until the "let's listen to the tune" moment, so that was
sub-optimal, because of course there were some parts of her interpretation
that I hadn't planned on! As you may have noticed if you checked the tune
to "Bare to the Bone," it's got a sort of syncopation that's difficult to
get a strong beat out of for walking, so my classmates had a little trouble
moving in time. That's of course my fault for never even pointing out the
beat and suggesting they place their feet to it.
We did the whole thing (verse + chorus) twice through.
I had planned out "teaching points" to try to make it smooth and with some
semblance of the beautiful, but I dispensed with everything except telling
and showing them the moves, basically, because I was supposed to wrap up the
whole thing in 5 minutes flat (yeep!). So it was a little bit wild, but
people smiled (even laughed!) and moved, so it can't possibly have been all
bad.
In sum: I realize I did nowhere near to justice to the folk dance
traditions. And if anyone thinks I did a disservice to folk dance, I hope
you'll just write me off no more than a tiny drop in the bucket of
misperceptions. But, although I doubt my classmates will act on any
interest I may (or may not) have awakened, it is my evaluation that I did
provide them with a memorable and positive experience regarding moving and
music and holding hands.
Which is kind of like dancing, I hope.
One of them even told me that she was initially apprehensive, but started
thinking, "Hey, I can do this!" as I was teaching. So that I liked.
Thanks again,
Lark
--
There is no conceivable beauty of blossom so beautiful as words,--none so
graceful, none so perfumed. It is possible to dream of combinations of
syllables so delicious that all the dawning and decay of summer cannot
rival their perfection, nor winter's stainless white and azure match their
purity and their charm.
--Thomas Wentworth Higginson
Hi group,
Weird situation: I am supposed to put together a five-minute presentation on
myself as a leader for a "Leadership & Organizational Behavior" graduate
class, and I just think that perhaps the way to go is to create a VERY
SIMPLE English Country dance set to my favorite song--and teach it to my
classmates.
Most of you don't know me, but I'll nonetheless spare you with explanations
as to exactly how weird this is. And, yes, I realize, too, that it may not
be an optimal ECD introduction for my classmates, but I hope it will be
beautiful in some degree, and moving, and indeed an expression of the kind
of leadership I am trying to develop (yes, I'm a budding caller).
In addition, the favorite song, Carrie Newcomer's "Bare to the Bone"
(see http://carrienewcomer.com/chords/age_of_possibility_chords.pdf
<http://carrienewcomer.com/sheet_music/Bare_to_the_Bone_sheet_music.pdf>
and
http://carrienewcomer.com/sheet_music/Bare_to_the_Bone_sheet_music.pdf)
expresses everything I want to be as a person.
So I'm writing for advice. Since I am supposed to take 5 minutes for the
whole dang kit & kaboodle, I will probably only run the dance three times
through--one verse, one bridge, and one more verse. I've written moves for
8 bars of 4/4, and I do not think I need any additional moves for a
rank-beginner group:
***
"Bare to the Bone"
Lark-Aeryn Speyer, 2009
DRAFT
2-couple sets, facing across the hall; or 3-couple circle sets
1 taking hands in a ring, balance in and out
2 cloverleaf turn single away from partner
3-4 clockwise, single file circle 1/2 (step-pause step)
(If you're in a 3-couple circle set, just circle as far as the
music suggests)
5 taking hands in a ring, balance in and out
6 taking 2 hands with your partner, balance in and out
7-8 2-hand turn partner once
(If in 2-couple sets, you are now on the other side of the set. This passes
for a progression.)
***
The music (in case you don't know it) is sweet, soft, simple, and healing.
The lyrics (I intend to sing one verse beforehand in lieu of "let's listen
to the music once through") and the general feel of the tune are a condition
of complete openness, an approach of utter goodwill. What I would hope my
classmates could take away is a feeling of lightness, ideally even of
spiritual availability. (Of course, this also depends on my fiddler
classmate who has offered to learn the tune.)
And I'll bring along a handful of flyers for local English dances, just in
case. :-)
Thoughts very much welcomed! I assure you that any other ideas I have for
this presentation are much scarier to me!
Thanks,
Lark Speyer
--
There is no conceivable beauty of blossom so beautiful as words,--none so
graceful, none so perfumed. It is possible to dream of combinations of
syllables so delicious that all the dawning and decay of summer cannot
rival their perfection, nor winter's stainless white and azure match their
purity and their charm.
--Thomas Wentworth Higginson
Here's another dance with lots of gypsies in it. I am using it tonight
at our Valentine's Day dance:
The Gypsy Dancer by Dave Colestock
Duple Improper
A1 Gypsy N once around
Left shoulder gypsy Old N once around (P at ends of line)
A2 Swing original N, Circle L 3/4
B1 Gypsy P and Swing
B2 Circle L 3/4, N Do Si Do 1 1/2 to new N
Thanks for other suggestions that have been made.
Andrea
Feb 13, 2009 03:05:21 PM, [1]callers(a)sharedweight.net wrote:
Hi Ricky,
My college-age son tells me that for college age kids there's
nothing
more fun than a gypsy. Under his tutelage I've done two dances for
college crowds lately using lots of gypsies to a very enthusiastic
response. My husband, who attended one of them, thought it was
tooooo many gypsies, but my son said it was perfect... different
strokes.
I used Gypsy Around Two, already mentioned. I also modified Broken
Sixpence, swapping out the ladies do-si-do for a ladies gypsy and
the
gents do-si-do for a gents gypsy. In addition, they had a lot of fun
playing with the ladies gypsies in Heartbeat Contra by Don Flaherty
and Casbah Queens by David McMullen. I assume you have those but
just in case:
Heartbeat Contra by Don Flaherty
A1 Balance circle, spin one place to the right (2x)
A2 Neighbors balance and swing
B1 Ladies gypsy once and a half, partners swing
B2 Circle left 3/4, Balance the ring, partners California twirl
Casbah Queens by David McMullen
A1 Neighbors do-si-do and swing
A2 Gents allemande left 1 1/2, partners allemande right 1 1/2
B1 Ladies left shoulder gypsy, partners swing
B2 Promenade across set, Circle left 3/4, Pass through up and down
Have fun!
Delia
On Feb 13, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Richard Green wrote:
> Ricky,
>
> Ted Crane's dance "All You Can Eat" is easy and has multiple
> gypsies. It is
> posted on his website, but I couldn't find the link, so here is
> what I have:
>
> All You Can Eat
> Ted Crane
> Duple Improper
> A1 Neighbor R sh Gypsy
> Ladies Allemande L 1.5
> A2 Partner Balance & Swing
>
> B1 Circle L ¾
> Neighbor Swing
> B2 LH Star
> (Same)Neighbor L sh Gypsy
>
> Richard
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> OK,
>
> I give up. I have been trying to find dances that feature gypsies
> and that
> beginners could enjoy. I am especially interested in dances with
> more than
> one gypsy, and would be even more excited if there was a gypsy
> right into a
> gypsy left (or the reverse), and/or if men gypsy men or women
gypsy
> women.
> I tried "American Country Dances on Line", but no multiple gypsy
> dances. I
> even tried writing one - but I do not think that it 'flies'. Any
> suggestions. It is for Valentine's Day.
>
> Rickey
>
>
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