One key aspect of a Square Through (as opposed to n changes of right & left,
cross trails, circular heys, etc.) that hasn't been mentioned, is that after
the last Pull By of a Square Through you do NOT turn. The initial Pull Bys
all have a quarter turn after the Pull By, but the last one leaves you back
to back with the last person you passed, facing in the opposite direction to
them.
Square Throughs or changes of rights & lefts, in ECD, take as many beats as
there is music. Some dances require you to make each change in two beats,
some are more leisurely and allow you four beats for each one. Contra
dancers don't want to use four steps to pull past someone when they can do
it in two steps. Hence the Balanced Square Through: four beats to balance
forward & back; four beats for two changes - making a total of eight beats -
just right for a contra dance figure.
As has been mentioned the "Cross-Trail" found in modern contra dancers is
not really a cross trail; it is much more like two changes of a circular hey
or two changes of rights & lefts, without hands.
Happy dancing,
John Sweeney
FYI, I am forwarding the message below. Mil contributed so much to the New England square dance community.
Rich
Dear SDFNE Board of Directors and Library Associates,
There is not much one can say at a time like this.
Milburn was at home with me from Wednesday, December 4th until Wednesday, December 11th
when he peacefully passed away at 9:45 p.m.
The world has lost someone very special. He was one of those truly gracious individuals who make life
so much more pleasant for everyone around him.
My "Thanks" to everyone for your thoughts, prayers, and good wishes. It made Mil's medical situation
more bearable. You are true friends.
Sincerely, Anna
Funeral arrangements are:
Wake - Monday, December 16th from 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
Location - Doherty-Berile Family Funeral Home, 11 Linden St., Reading MA
www.barilefuneral.com
Funeral Mass - Tuesday, December 17th at 10:30 a.m.
Location: St. Agnes Church, 186 Woburn St., Reading MA
Internment - St. Bernard's Cemetery, Concord MA
In lieu of flowers, please honor Mil by making donations in his memory to the
Square Dance Foundation of New England, Inc.,
Attn: Treas. F. Turgeon
9 Carleton Street, Lawrence MA 01843-1105
Anna K. Dixon
President
SDFNE
238 Woburn Street
Reading MA 01867
781-944-4416
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This type of database already exists for Scottish dances: <http://my.strathspey.org/dd/>. It has written and diagram descriptions, links to videos, ratings and comments and a database searchable by figure, author, music type &c. I use it most weeks to pick appropriate music from my club's collection, when we don't have a recording intended for the dance in question.
It helps that quite a lot of the legwork has already been done e.g. MiniCrib, an existing unofficial publication of abbreviated dance instructions in a standard form, and there being a standard set of diagrams for figures. Not that this wouldn't be possible for contra, but it would be more work to start from scratch / different styles of crib.
If I understand correctly, only the (volunteer) administrators can add dances, but members of the public can comment on and rate dances if they have logged in, and submit cribs or video links, which are approved by moderators.
Evolution of dances by the folk process has certainly been documented (which shoulder to pass in Mairi's Wedding, popular variations in the possibly-palindromic Ian Powrie's Farewell to Auchterarder), but I get the impression such variations are less common in SCD (published programmes of existing dances people might practise in advance, rather than the caller calling their favourite version on the night).
Edmund Croft,
Cambridge, UK
I just read the results of the CDSS caller's survey. (http://www.cdss.org/tl_files/cdss/documents/how-to/CDSS_Contra_Task_Force_s…)
One of the resulting suggestions was for CDSS to set up a dance depository. Here are my thoughts on this.
Considering the 1000's of contra (and other formation) dances that have written, of varying quality and difficulty, I have reservations about a single global contra database. Such a database detracts from the folk process. And who is to say which dances are worthy of placement in such a database?
HOWEVER (part 1) .....
CDSS should have a depository of dances, somewhat like the one on the "Contra Dances by" section of Cary Ravitz's page http://ravitz.us/dance/
While Cary's page links to dance author's pages, the CDSS page should get copies of each author's dances, formatted however that author formatted them (e.g. .rtf, .pdf or .html), with the CDSS page containing links to these copies. Authors should be able to send an updated file to CDSS up to say 3 times a year. This will preserve the author's dances when s/he terminates his/her web site. These links could include .pdfs of out-of-proint dance book.
The folk process in some sense is maintained by people having to peruse these various author pages in order to find dances. A discussion board, maybe even the current Shared Weight forum, would be the place for for callers to discuss these dances.
HOWEVER (part 2) optional ....
The Caller's Companion (http://callerscompanion.com/) provides a good model of how an on-line database might work. Many aspects of this program will work as a model for an on-line dance database. So in addition to the pages susuggested in HOWEVER (part 1), CDSS could also set up an on-line database and intially populate it with at most 200-300 dances, selected by CDSS staff or a committee, of various difficulties and formations. Any CDSS member, and only CDSS members, should be allowed to add a dance to this database of remove a dance s/he inserted. Dances on a page from HOWEVER (part 1) may well end up in this database.
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217-239-5844
Links to photos of many of my drawings and paintings are at www.ArtComesFuerst.com
This -- collaborative editing of persistent information -- is what Wiki's
were invented for.
Easy to set one up on a hosting server -- free at Dreamhost if we get
sponsorship from a 501(c)(3).
- Roger Hayes
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> I'm trying to figure out why having a database of dances would detract
> from the folk process. ?Isn't the folk process considered the handing down
> of material from person to person, generation to generation? ?And should
> that not also include the way that material is handed down? ?I think that a
> database of dances is extremely helpful to the evolution of the folk
> process. ?When the web evolved, people put their dances on the web for all
> to see, use, adapt. ?Now we have the cloud, and callers can share their
> dances using a cloud-based database. ? Considering that this is what was
> highly requested on the survey, I think that we need to find ways to create
> this repository of dances that also respects the rights of the
> choreographers who write them. ?
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> I agree with Andrea.? I find the annotations that folks provide on this
> listserv to be the most helpful part.? If we allowed a wide range of dances
> in the database, but then opened it up for commentary, sort of like Yelp or
> Amazon or other user reviews, I think we'd get a lot of useful intel on
> each dance.
>
> On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Nettleton <twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Rather than limit which dances get on the database and how, why not
> allow reviews of said dances.? If it had a clunky moment for one dancer,
> tends to get saw toothed, or has other issues, it might get fewer stars and
> an explanation.? Choreographers could choose to pull or amend a dance so
> reviewed, and callers could decide for themselves whether the reviews will
> apply in their situation.? The folk process works better the more
> information and dances are out there, not by artificially limiting, based
> on some committees personal tastes and particular filters regarding
> appropriateness.? There might be some requirement that a dance needs to
> have been successfully danced by at least two or three communities to
> qualify or something so every person who thinks they can write doesn't post
> a bunch of useless dances.? I think making it be more work for CDSS? to put
> a dance up impedes the project unnecessarily.?
> > I do, however, like the idea of having links to choreographers'
> websites, and maybe even a caller's companion-sequel search engine, so one
> could look for say, an biter mediate dance with a hey and a mad robin, and
> come up with all the dances in the database which fulfill the request.
> > My two cents,
> > Andrea
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> >> On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just read the results of the CDSS caller's survey.? (
> http://www.cdss.org/tl_files/cdss/documents/how-to/CDSS_Contra_Task_Force_s…
> )
> >>
> >> One of the resulting suggestions was for CDSS to set up a dance
> depository.? ? Here are my thoughts on this.
> >>
> >>
> >> Considering the 1000's of contra (and other formation) dances that have
> written, of varying quality and difficulty, I have reservations about a
> single global contra database.? Such a database detracts from the folk
> process.? And who is to say which dances are worthy of placement in such a
> database??
> >>
> >> HOWEVER? (part 1) .....
> >>
> >> CDSS should have a depository of dances, somewhat like the one on the
> "Contra Dances by" section of Cary Ravitz's page http://ravitz.us/dance/
> >> While Cary's page links to dance author's pages, the CDSS page should
> get copies of each author's dances, formatted however that author formatted
> them (e.g. .rtf, .pdf or .html), with the CDSS page containing links to
> these copies.? Authors should be able to send an updated file to CDSS up to
> say 3 times a year.? This will preserve the author's dances when s/he?
> terminates his/her web site.? These links could include .pdfs of
> out-of-proint dance book.
> >> The folk process in some sense is maintained by people having to peruse
> these various author pages in order to find dances.? A discussion board,
> maybe even the current Shared Weight forum, would be the place for for
> callers to discuss these dances.?
> >>
> >> HOWEVER (part 2)? optional? ....
> >>
> >> The Caller's Companion (http://callerscompanion.com/)? provides a good
> model of how an on-line database might work.? Many? aspects of this program
> will work as a model for an on-line dance database.? So in addition to the
> pages susuggested in HOWEVER (part 1), CDSS could also set up an on-line
> database and intially populate it with at most 200-300 dances, selected by
> CDSS staff or a committee, of various difficulties and formations.? Any
> CDSS member, and only CDSS members, should be allowed to add a dance to
> this database of remove a dance s/he inserted.? Dances on a page from
> HOWEVER (part 1) may well end up in this database.?
> >>
> >> Michael Fuerst? ? ? 802 N Broadway? ? ? Urbana IL 61801? ? ?
> 217-239-5844
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> www.ArtComesFuerst.com
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Hi All,
A band I'm working with on an upcoming contra dance gig has asked me if I
can find a dance to fit some AABBCC tunes they have. They mentioned Real
Beatrice, and suggested that a balance at the top of C1 might work very
well.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
William
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This is my bulk mail / mailing list address.
William J. Watson
Hey caller types--
Any of you going to the RPDLW interested in going in together on housing
and or transportation for the weekend? I'm flying in to Boston on
Friday afternoon and then driving up, and then will be heading back to
Cambridge to call the BIDA dance Sunday night. If so, please email me
off list.
Thanks!
Jack
The present time of Munroe's story would have been about 1945, so this is about a period maybe 20 years before, in rural Ontario.
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…. A strange desperate sort of haste…. a special facility
"When my mother was growing up, she and her whole family would go to dances. These would be held in the schoolhouse, or sometimes in a farmhouse with a big enough front room. Young and old would be in attendance. Someone would play the piano – the household piano or the one in the school – and someone would have brought a violin. The square dancing had complicated patterns or steps, which a person known for a special facility would call out at the top of his voice (it was always a man) and in a strange desperate sort of haste which was of no use at all unless you knew the dance already. As everybody did, having learned them all by the time they were ten or twelve years old. "
-- Opening paragraph of Voices, autobiographical story by Nobel Prize-winner Alice Munro, in her most recent book Dear Life, published 2012 by Vintage International.
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Richard Hopkins
Tallahassee, FL
850-894-9212 (home)
850-544-7614 (cell)
hopkinsrs(a)comcast.net
Greetings fellow callers,
I recently wrote a dance, but can't think of a name. I'm calling it this
evening, so I'm hoping something will happen that makes a funny story as to
how the dance got its name. Failing that, I was wondering if any of you had
any suggestions.
????? (Ben Hornstein)
ccw becket wave (starts with partner in right hand, men have left hands in
the middle)
A1) balance wave, P allemande R 3/4 (to long waves)
balance waves, circulate waves
A2) balance waves, circulate waves
P swing
B1) circle L 3/4
zig-zag to new N
B2) M see-saw
M allemande L 1, P allemande R 1
Any ideas?
I'm also open to thoughts about the dance itself.
-Ben Hornstein
