Hi Luke,
I suspect you will have timing problems in a Double Contra because
of the extra time it takes for the people at the ends of the lines.
I have a couple of dances with a DosiAll and the other challenge is
getting them all to start at the same time. I solve this with a Balance the
Ring first; that launches everyone into the DosiAll at the same time.
My contra with a DosiAll is a standard contra, so it is two couples
- four individuals - all doing a dosido at the same time.
When I teach it I sometimes get the men to dosido and then the
ladies to dosido, then explain that we can't afford all those extra notes,
so they are going to have to do both dosidos at the same time. If they
start moving slightly more to their left than they would normally then that
will help to avoid crashes. The balance before each DosiAll is to ensure
that everyone starts into the movement at the same time. It's really at its
best when all four dancers do the counterclockwise spins that are common in
dosidos.
You can also teach it by getting the four dancers to do a four
person Gypsy; that is the track they follow - now do it as a Dosido.
The dancers all have to be confident and go for it - because you are
following the same track, but with your back to the other people, or
spinning, then you need everyone to keep moving.
I have included below a three couple dance which only has three
people doing the DosiAll at the same time. I sometimes use that to get
people used to the concept.
DosiAll (by John Sweeney)
Contra; Becket
A1: Circle Right Half Way; Balance the Ring
DosiAll
A2: Circle Left Half Way; Balance the Ring
DosiAll
B1: Partner Balance & Swing
B2: On the Left Diagonal: Half Hey - Ladies lead by Right Shoulder
Half Promenade Across and flow into.
Gypsy A Trois (by John Sweeney)
Three Couples in a Circle
A1: Circle Left Four Steps; Balance the Ring
Men DosiAll
A2: Circle Left Four Steps; Balance the Ring
Ladies DosiAll
B1: Partner Allemande Left to
Ladies Right Shoulder Gypsy WHILE Men Single File Promenade CCW outside
the set
B2: Meet your Partner (second time, at home): Partner Allemande Left (about
half) to your Corner
Corner Swing - this is your new Partner
x3 should take you home
Please let me know if your dancers enjoy them.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
In southern-style square dancing, there are several variations on a figure which is often called “dosido” for two couples, and they are nothing like what Luke is imagining. They go by names like Georgia Rangtang, Georgy-Alabam, Do-si, Dosido and (I think) in MWSD a version of it is called Do Paso. That’s not to say that the figure you are describing isn’t a good one for your dance; it’s just another reason to avoid calling it a dosido.
Richard
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> Howdy,
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> I've been asked to run a barn dance Saturday Jan 16, 9pm-11pm, but I'm
> busy. The dance will be part of the Western Regional Outdoor Leadership
> Conference:
>
> http://outdoored.stanford.edu/center/wrolc-2016/
>
> If you don't know where Stanford is, you're probably coming from too far
> away to make sense. ;-)
>
> There will be 100+ college students. The theme for this year's
> conference is "diversity", and they would prefer a caller who can fit the
> theme in addition to having experience with one-night-stand environments.
>
> I've offered to be a filter so that they don't need to deal with the
> responses, so please respond privately to me if you're interested and
> available. I've already explained that booking will be somewhat
> difficult both because of the relatively short notice and because it's
> Ralph Page weekend.
>
> I probably will also be sending out an e-mail blast to people I have
> addresses for, apologies if you get this twice. They have already
> contacted other callers so you may actually get three copies...
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>> I've been asked to run a barn dance Saturday Jan 16, 9pm-11pm, but I'm
>> busy. The dance will be part of the Western Regional Outdoor Leadership
>> Conference:
>>
>> http://outdoored.stanford.edu/center/wrolc-2016/
>>
>> If you don't know where Stanford is, you're probably coming from too far
>> away to make sense. ;-)
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> Someone pointed out that I should at least have mentioned that this is
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> It's 5 am, and I find myself awake and writing dances; specifically 4x4s.
> Unfortunately, I don't have 8 dancers waiting on my insomnia to test
> things, so I figured I'd send them to shared weight...
>
> Possibly this is a choreographic question already answered in square
> dancing, but I'm not familiar with the outcome. How well does a four person
> do-si-do work? I'm thinking of something along the lines of:
>
> Doubled-si-do
> Four Facing Four
>
> A1 -----------
> (4) Give and Gents take (up and down)
> (12) Neighbor swing
> A2 -----------
> (8) Women's Chain back to partner (up and down), turn to face in
> (8) All four Women Do-si-do 1x
> B1 -----------
> (8) All four Men Do-si-do 1x
> (8) All eight Circle Left 1/2x
> B2 -----------
> (16) Partner balance and swing
> End facing line of direction
>
> In my head, the four person do-si-do is a right hand star sans hands; but
> not sure how well it'll fly; especially since the right diagonal women have
> less far to turn to face in than the left diagonal women coming out of the
> chain.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thank you
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Howdy,
I've been asked to run a barn dance Saturday Jan 16, 9pm-11pm, but I'm
busy. The dance will be part of the Western Regional Outdoor Leadership
Conference:
http://outdoored.stanford.edu/center/wrolc-2016/
If you don't know where Stanford is, you're probably coming from too far
away to make sense. ;-)
There will be 100+ college students. The theme for this year's
conference is "diversity", and they would prefer a caller who can fit the
theme in addition to having experience with one-night-stand environments.
I've offered to be a filter so that they don't need to deal with the
responses, so please respond privately to me if you're interested and
available. I've already explained that booking will be somewhat
difficult both because of the relatively short notice and because it's
Ralph Page weekend.
I probably will also be sending out an e-mail blast to people I have
addresses for, apologies if you get this twice. They have already
contacted other callers so you may actually get three copies...
--
Square/Contra Caller http://caller.aahz.ws/
<*> <*> <*>
"Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad."
absolutely excellent article; thanks Michael. I was, in a past life, a "Woodrow Wilson fellow" at Princeton and never knew this but I surely agree with the articles conclusion (and its relevance to the gypsy discussion)
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Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844
There are occasional requests on this forum for a dance to be identified, which got me thinking.
As with, I’m sure, many callers, I have a number of dances that I’ve come across, often at dances, where I know neither the name nor the author. I like to honour the choreographer by mentioning their name and the name of the dance when I call it, but I can’t do this if I don’t know it.
It is usually relatively easy to find the author if you know the title, using Michael Dyck's excellent Contradance Index, but without a title it becomes a much bigger task. An “obvious” solution would be a magical web page that lets you put in the dance and to reward you with the name and author. Apart from the massive logistical challenge of creating and maintaining such a database, this seems morally dubious as some authors prefer not to publish their work.
So what can we do? We could all ask on [Callers] but we’d soon get fed up with the forum being taken over. I wondered about a “please identify this dance” (sub-)forum, similar to the many ”ask the expert” forums (fora?) you see in the IT community.
Do members have any thoughts about this? Will it work? How do we get people on it? What are the issues? Is there a batter / alternative approach?
Over to the Hive Mind.
Jeremy
http://barndancecaller.net/SocialDance.html
I learned this dance from George Marshall at the Charlottesville, VA, Fall
Festival, 2014. Can someone tell me the name of the dance and its author?
Thanks.
Improper Contra
A1 Half-pousette around Neighbors, women push
Swing Neighbor
A2 Men allemande L 1 1/2
Meet P and pass R for half a hey
B1 Gypsy and swing P
B2 Women chain
Circle RIGHT into half-pousette
>
At the last minute Bob Isaacs had to cancel calling for our double
contradance on November 21.just a few days away. This is a double dance
with the amazing Jay Unger and Molly Mason. The afternoon dance is from 3-5
for experienced dancers followed by a potluck and an evening dance from
7-10:30. We can provide lodging if needed. Please contact me ASAP:
egidseg(a)optimum.net
Eric Gidseg
For Hudson Valley Community Dances
<http://hudsonvalleydance.org/> http://hudsonvalleydance.org/
Hi All:
Passing this on from the organizer. I hate to cancel any gig, especially so close to the date, but a business trip got extended into the weekend. Any help is greatly appreciated - Bob At the last minute Bob Isaacs had to cancel calling for our double contra dance on November 21…just a few days away. This is a double dance with the amazing Jay Unger and Molly Mason. The afternoon dance is from 3-5 for experienced dancers followed by a potluck and an evening dance from 7-10:30. We can provide lodging if needed. Please contact me ASAP: egidseg(a)optimum.net Eric GidsegFor Hudson Valley Community Danceshttp://hudsonvalleydance.org/