I should note that I've been trying this year to add multiple
references to the Caller's Box, especially for the older dances.
http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=3615
should give 10 references, six of which are online.
(There's one more for in the next update: Oglebay Institute Syllabus
<vol> 1982 <no> Spring <p> 10. It's still an ongoing project.)
-Chris Page
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:35 PM Kalia Kliban via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> This dance appears in the RPLDW syllabus from 1990, transcribed from the
> previously-taped calling of Ralph Page. It's a triple minor (1s)
> improper contra. The notes are pretty minimal:
>
> "Allemande left 1-1/2
> To next below for a dosido
> Circle 6 to the left once around
> Star left below
> Swing the one above
> Right and left four (over and back)"
>
> Since it's a triple minor and we need to get the 1s into the middle
> somehow, the obvious place for that to happen is during that initial
> allemande 1-1/2. And instructions in this period usually talked to the
> 1s, which makes most of the rest of the dance pretty self-driving.
> Anyone know whether that final over-and-back is with the 2s above or the
> 3s below? If it's with the 2s above, then the propriety is right for
> the courtesy turns.
>
> If you've danced this, or have it in your files, could you confirm or
> correct my guesses?
>
> Many thanks,
> Kalia in Sebastopol
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On 2019-12-12 7:35 p.m., Kalia Kliban via Contra Callers wrote:
> This dance appears in the RPLDW syllabus from 1990, transcribed from the
> previously-taped calling of Ralph Page. It's a triple minor (1s) improper
> contra. The notes are pretty minimal:
>
> "Allemande left 1-1/2
> To next below for a dosido
> Circle 6 to the left once around
> Star left below
> Swing the one above
> Right and left four (over and back)"
>
> Since it's a triple minor and we need to get the 1s into the middle somehow,
> the obvious place for that to happen is during that initial allemande
> 1-1/2. And instructions in this period usually talked to the 1s, which
> makes most of the rest of the dance pretty self-driving. Anyone know whether
> that final over-and-back is with the 2s above or the 3s below? If it's with
> the 2s above, then the propriety is right for the courtesy turns.
>
> If you've danced this, or have it in your files, could you confirm or
> correct my guesses?
See Northern Junket vol 13, #11, p 27:
http://digital.unh.edu/fedora/objects/northernjunket:0155/datastreams/APPLI…
(That's dated June 1981, so I think it's the first appearance.)
The printing is fairly bad, but you can still read:
"Actives allemande left the one below - once around and a little more"
and
"Top two couples right and left four (over & back)"
So both of your guesses are confirmed.
Less authoritatively, but more readably, there's also RPDLW 2013:
https://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2013.pdf#page=46
-Michael
Hi Kalia,
Well, found it in Larry Jenning's "Zesty Contras" #115:
Triple & improper:1. Allmd L below 1&1/2 2. Dsd #3 3&4. Cir six L 5. Star L #3!
6. Sw #2 7. R&L #2 8. Ret.Alt: Duple & improper:
1. Allmd L below 1&1/2 2. Dsd #3 3&4. Act & #3&4: Cir L 2x 5. Same four: Star L
6. Sw #2 7. R&L with #2 8. Ret
Hope this helps!
Don Heinold, caller from RI
On Thursday, December 12, 2019, 7:35:25 PM EST, Kalia Kliban via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
This dance appears in the RPLDW syllabus from 1990, transcribed from the
previously-taped calling of Ralph Page. It's a triple minor (1s)
improper contra. The notes are pretty minimal:
"Allemande left 1-1/2
To next below for a dosido
Circle 6 to the left once around
Star left below
Swing the one above
Right and left four (over and back)"
Since it's a triple minor and we need to get the 1s into the middle
somehow, the obvious place for that to happen is during that initial
allemande 1-1/2. And instructions in this period usually talked to the
1s, which makes most of the rest of the dance pretty self-driving.
Anyone know whether that final over-and-back is with the 2s above or the
3s below? If it's with the 2s above, then the propriety is right for
the courtesy turns.
If you've danced this, or have it in your files, could you confirm or
correct my guesses?
Many thanks,
Kalia in Sebastopol
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This dance appears in the RPLDW syllabus from 1990, transcribed from the
previously-taped calling of Ralph Page. It's a triple minor (1s)
improper contra. The notes are pretty minimal:
"Allemande left 1-1/2
To next below for a dosido
Circle 6 to the left once around
Star left below
Swing the one above
Right and left four (over and back)"
Since it's a triple minor and we need to get the 1s into the middle
somehow, the obvious place for that to happen is during that initial
allemande 1-1/2. And instructions in this period usually talked to the
1s, which makes most of the rest of the dance pretty self-driving.
Anyone know whether that final over-and-back is with the 2s above or the
3s below? If it's with the 2s above, then the propriety is right for
the courtesy turns.
If you've danced this, or have it in your files, could you confirm or
correct my guesses?
Many thanks,
Kalia in Sebastopol
how about Head, Heart, Hands, Health and Hoedown
Mac McKeever
On Tuesday, December 10, 2019, 09:17:00 PM CST, Sivier, Jonathan E via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I'm going to be leading a dance workshop for 4-H kids in the spring and I'm trying to figure out a catchy title. I want something that will be descriptive, but also something that will get their attention and will look like it might be fun. If anyone has any ideas, especially if you have done something similar in the past and have something that worked, let me know.
Thanks.
Jonathan
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A: It depends on what dance you call!
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I'm going to be leading a dance workshop for 4-H kids in the spring and I'm trying to figure out a catchy title. I want something that will be descriptive, but also something that will get their attention and will look like it might be fun. If anyone has any ideas, especially if you have done something similar in the past and have something that worked, let me know.
Thanks.
Jonathan
-----
Jonathan Sivier
Caller of Contra, Square, English and Early American Dances
jsivier AT illinois DOT edu
Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html
-----
Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
A: It depends on what dance you call!
Hi Bob,
Larry and Molly play it at around 108 bpm. That is not too slow for a smooth contra. Choose something that flows smoothly like Flirtation Reel or The Mad Gypsy (http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/TheMadGypsy.html) (use a swing instead of the Two hand Turn).
You just need to persuade (challenge?) the dancers to use all the music and make it flow - or play it slightly faster.
Happy dancing,
John
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Sent: 03 December 2019 21:42
To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] The Montague Processional
Are there any dances that go with the tune "The Montague Processional”? As it’s normally played slowly I doubt there’s a _contra_ dance per se, but maybe there exists some other choreographed movement that’d be accessible to contra dancers?
I’m calling for the Rainbow Contra Dancer’s last dance in Montague (they’re moving venues to Northampton), so I thought the tune would be a nice tribute to their 10 years there.
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Are there any dances that go with the tune "The Montague Processional”? As it’s normally played slowly I doubt there’s a _contra_ dance per se, but maybe there exists some other choreographed movement that’d be accessible to contra dancers?
I’m calling for the Rainbow Contra Dancer’s last dance in Montague (they’re moving venues to Northampton), so I thought the tune would be a nice tribute to their 10 years there.
John,
This is just one person's usage, though it is appropriate. The Callerlab
Definitions do no use "Mirror Star Thru" in the definition, but rather say,
do the mirror image of a Star Thru.
From Callerlab website
:
Double Star Thru Timing: 6 From any appropriate formation (e.g. Normal
Facing Couples): Those who can Star Thru. Those who can do the mirror image
of a Star Thru (an arch is made with the man's left hand and the woman's
right hand; the man goes around the arch while the lady goes under). In
each part of the call, some dancers must be active. Normal facing couples
will end as sashayed couples back-to-back.
Rich Sbardella
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:40 PM John Sweeney via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> It appears that MWSD defines it at the Advanced level:
> https://www.ceder.net/def/doublestarthru.php?language=usa&level=A1
>
> It is a Mirror Star Thru. But only if that is what you meant by Reverse!
>
> But I would stick to "Twirl". :-)
>
> Happy dancing,
> John
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs
>
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> Sent: 02 December 2019 20:36
> To: Diane Silver <diane(a)diane-silver.com>
> Cc: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Re: is there an agreed term?
>
> I think in MWDS it’s called mirror image star thru (Gents L, Lady’s R).
> If I’m calling it for contra dancers, I might explain the terminology, but
> then just call it “twirl to swap”, being careful to stress the end result:
> Side by side, both facing the same direction.
>
> Lisa G
>
> > On Dec 2, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Diane Silver via Contra Callers <
> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> > A caller not on this list asked me: Is there an agreed term for a
> reverse star through?
> >
> > I don't know of one (other than "reverse star through"), so I'm putting
> it out there to everyone.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -- Diane
> >
> > ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~
> > Diane Silver
> >
> > diane(a)diane-silver.com
> >
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It appears that MWSD defines it at the Advanced level:
https://www.ceder.net/def/doublestarthru.php?language=usa&level=A1
It is a Mirror Star Thru. But only if that is what you meant by Reverse!
But I would stick to "Twirl". :-)
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574
http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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Sent: 02 December 2019 20:36
To: Diane Silver <diane(a)diane-silver.com>
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Subject: [Callers] Re: is there an agreed term?
I think in MWDS it’s called mirror image star thru (Gents L, Lady’s R). If I’m calling it for contra dancers, I might explain the terminology, but then just call it “twirl to swap”, being careful to stress the end result: Side by side, both facing the same direction.
Lisa G
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Diane Silver via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> A caller not on this list asked me: Is there an agreed term for a reverse star through?
>
> I don't know of one (other than "reverse star through"), so I'm putting it out there to everyone.
>
> Thanks.
> -- Diane
>
> ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~
> Diane Silver
>
> diane(a)diane-silver.com
>
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