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> 1. Re: Fw: Creating a CDSS dance depository (Perry Shafran)
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> From: Perry Shafran <pshaf(a)yahoo.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Fw: Creating a CDSS dance depository
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> I'm trying to figure out why having a database of dances would detract
> from the folk process. ?Isn't the folk process considered the handing down
> of material from person to person, generation to generation? ?And should
> that not also include the way that material is handed down? ?I think that a
> database of dances is extremely helpful to the evolution of the folk
> process. ?When the web evolved, people put their dances on the web for all
> to see, use, adapt. ?Now we have the cloud, and callers can share their
> dances using a cloud-based database. ? Considering that this is what was
> highly requested on the survey, I think that we need to find ways to create
> this repository of dances that also respects the rights of the
> choreographers who write them. ?
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> Perry
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> From: Delia Clark <deliaclark8(a)gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Fw: Creating a CDSS dance depository
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> I agree with Andrea.? I find the annotations that folks provide on this
> listserv to be the most helpful part.? If we allowed a wide range of dances
> in the database, but then opened it up for commentary, sort of like Yelp or
> Amazon or other user reviews, I think we'd get a lot of useful intel on
> each dance.
>
> On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Nettleton <twirly-girl(a)bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
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> > Rather than limit which dances get on the database and how, why not
> allow reviews of said dances.? If it had a clunky moment for one dancer,
> tends to get saw toothed, or has other issues, it might get fewer stars and
> an explanation.? Choreographers could choose to pull or amend a dance so
> reviewed, and callers could decide for themselves whether the reviews will
> apply in their situation.? The folk process works better the more
> information and dances are out there, not by artificially limiting, based
> on some committees personal tastes and particular filters regarding
> appropriateness.? There might be some requirement that a dance needs to
> have been successfully danced by at least two or three communities to
> qualify or something so every person who thinks they can write doesn't post
> a bunch of useless dances.? I think making it be more work for CDSS? to put
> a dance up impedes the project unnecessarily.?
> > I do, however, like the idea of having links to choreographers'
> websites, and maybe even a caller's companion-sequel search engine, so one
> could look for say, an biter mediate dance with a hey and a mad robin, and
> come up with all the dances in the database which fulfill the request.
> > My two cents,
> > Andrea
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> >> On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst(a)yahoo.com>
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> >>
> >> I just read the results of the CDSS caller's survey.? (
> http://www.cdss.org/tl_files/cdss/documents/how-to/CDSS_Contra_Task_Force_s…
> )
> >>
> >> One of the resulting suggestions was for CDSS to set up a dance
> depository.? ? Here are my thoughts on this.
> >>
> >>
> >> Considering the 1000's of contra (and other formation) dances that have
> written, of varying quality and difficulty, I have reservations about a
> single global contra database.? Such a database detracts from the folk
> process.? And who is to say which dances are worthy of placement in such a
> database??
> >>
> >> HOWEVER? (part 1) .....
> >>
> >> CDSS should have a depository of dances, somewhat like the one on the
> "Contra Dances by" section of Cary Ravitz's page http://ravitz.us/dance/
> >> While Cary's page links to dance author's pages, the CDSS page should
> get copies of each author's dances, formatted however that author formatted
> them (e.g. .rtf, .pdf or .html), with the CDSS page containing links to
> these copies.? Authors should be able to send an updated file to CDSS up to
> say 3 times a year.? This will preserve the author's dances when s/he?
> terminates his/her web site.? These links could include .pdfs of
> out-of-proint dance book.
> >> The folk process in some sense is maintained by people having to peruse
> these various author pages in order to find dances.? A discussion board,
> maybe even the current Shared Weight forum, would be the place for for
> callers to discuss these dances.?
> >>
> >> HOWEVER (part 2)? optional? ....
> >>
> >> The Caller's Companion (http://callerscompanion.com/)? provides a good
> model of how an on-line database might work.? Many? aspects of this program
> will work as a model for an on-line dance database.? So in addition to the
> pages susuggested in HOWEVER (part 1), CDSS could also set up an on-line
> database and intially populate it with at most 200-300 dances, selected by
> CDSS staff or a committee, of various difficulties and formations.? Any
> CDSS member, and only CDSS members, should be allowed to add a dance to
> this database of remove a dance s/he inserted.? Dances on a page from
> HOWEVER (part 1) may well end up in this database.?
> >>
> >> Michael Fuerst? ? ? 802 N Broadway? ? ? Urbana IL 61801? ? ?
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Hi All,
A band I'm working with on an upcoming contra dance gig has asked me if I
can find a dance to fit some AABBCC tunes they have. They mentioned Real
Beatrice, and suggested that a balance at the top of C1 might work very
well.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
William
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This is my bulk mail / mailing list address.
William J. Watson
Hey caller types--
Any of you going to the RPDLW interested in going in together on housing
and or transportation for the weekend? I'm flying in to Boston on
Friday afternoon and then driving up, and then will be heading back to
Cambridge to call the BIDA dance Sunday night. If so, please email me
off list.
Thanks!
Jack
