Amy wrote:
>The problem with expert adult dancers, of course, is that they sometimes
>ACT just like gradeschoolers, but then get bent all out of shape when you
>TREAT them that way....
And as well they should! I know I would certainly be disappointed in
a caller who treats us all like gradeschoolers.
Therein lies the problem with this entire thread.
The refrain of "Don't do it yet!" is one of the most frustrating and
unnecessary instructions. When I hear this instruction it is often
the case that the regular dancers are being told to shut up and sit
on their hands while the caller explains something verbally that
beginners could be led through in a fraction of the time.
If you think it is good for newcomers to be partnered with regular
dancers consider the implications of your teaching strategy. The
regulars want you to be successful. They want to help. Don't
sideline the regulars who have partnered with newcomers by making
them sit out while you teach something that they could easily show
the newcomers. This can lead to frustration and a sense that
partnering with newcomers is a futile effort.
Use all of the teaching resources you have on the floor. This gives
the regulars who partner with newcomers a sense that they have an
important role to play. In a sense, shut up and let the regular
dancers do their job. This allows the regulars to feel confident and
useful when they partner with newcomers. Reward them for taking that
step. Allow them to impress their partners. This will help you by
encouraging the integration of newcomers at your series.
Yes. There are some unique moves that require extra
instruction. But if you are using this instruction more than once an
evening I would encourage you to reconsider your assumptions.
Just a thought,
Greg
The first one of these I ever did was a dance called Huntsville's
Queen Bee Hey, and I loved it. Because of that, I guess I've always
called these "Queen Bee" heys, it brings up the image of the bees
doing their little dance while looking for new hives.
By the way, Chris Page wrote an AWESOME ricochet half-hey dance -
don't have time to find it now -
Chris? Care to share?
Anyway, I was inspired and wrote a few:
King Bee Hey Duple improper February 21, 2004
A1 Do-si-do neighbor
Allemande right neighbor 1 ½
A2 "King Bee Hey" (men pass left shoulder, women push off)*
B1 Men pass left one more time, swing partner
B2 Men allemande left 1 ½ ^
Women join in behind partner for a hands across star left 1X
*The men dance the full hey, passing left shoulders in the middle.
The women start the hey passing right with their partner, but then
the women meet in the middle and push off, backing up to the right
and then back to where they started, repeat. This effectively makes
little clockwise circles on the floor for the women.
^ On the men allemande left, the women have to let the men get around
once and then as their partner passes they move in behind him to join
the left hand star. A bit of a moving start on the part of the women
helps.
This next one is a little tricky at the end where the 2s swing and
end facing up - but if the 1s get ready for them it works quite well,
and I like it because it is both 1s and 2s get their day in the sun.
Worker Bee Hey #1
Duple improper September 24, 2006
A1 Down the set four in line (1s inside)
Turn as couples and return*, face in^
A2 “Worker bee” hey@, 2s start passing right shoulder
B1 2s gypsy and swing, end swing facing up!
B2 Handy-hand allemande ~1 ½ times (2s step inside)
1s swing and face down
* A little odd as the men are on the right of the women for the turn.
^ The line is not bent, all just turn to face center, 2s facing each
other, 1s behind.
@ I thought it would be nice to do the push off of a “queen bee” hey
with one’s own partner. In this case, the #2 couple does a full hey,
passing right shoulders to start, while the #1 couple meets at the
center and pushes off backwards in little counterclockwise circles.
This next is an easier version of the above, but it is unequal and
therefore better with shorter lines.
Worker Bee Hey #2
Duple Improper September 24, 2006
A1 Do-si-do neighbor
Swing neighbor
A2 Four in line down the set
Turn as couples, come back up
B1 Face in, “Worker Bee” hey, 1s start^
B2 1s gypsy and swing
^ Worker bee hey is as described above.
I like version 1 because both 1s and 2s get a partner swing.
And here is Huntsville's Queen Bee Hey, I believe by Jane Ewing
A1 See-saw neighbor (left shoulder do-si-do
Allemande left neighbor 1 1/2
A2 Queen Bee Hey, starting right shoulders women in center
B1 Women pull by the right, swing partner (I use pass by the right)
B2 Women chain across
Star left
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>> I was left-hand dominant until age 5, when my
>> parents discovered that I
>> was right-eye dominant. So, with the cooperation of
>> my first grade
>> teacher, they made me switch. Now I only eat my
>> meals lefty. 8^)
>>
>> Maybe I call left-handed, too? 9^)
>>
>> Chris Weiler
>> Goffstown, NH
>>
>> Joyce Miller wrote:
>>> I called at an event recently where I was one of
>> three callers. We
>>> discovered that all three of us are left-handed. I
>> am curious to know
>>> how many people on this list are left-hand
>> dominant.
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> From: "Jerome Grisanti" <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Contra Corners with Diagonal Wavy
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> I started to choreograph a dance like this a few years ago, then I
> found
> that Seth Tepfer had already done so, and his worked better than
> what I had
> written.... But perhaps I will revisit it....
> --jerome
> Perforated Corners
>
> By Seth Tepfer
>
> Formation: improper contra
>
> Level: Med
>
> Composed: 3/20/2003
>
> A1: (4) Down the Hall 4 in line, 1s in the center; (4) 1s turn as a
> couple,
> 2s turn alone; (4) up the hall 4 in line, (4) cast off with same
> gender
>
> A2: 1s allemande Right .75, give LH to 1s corner to form diagonal
> wave (4);
> balance (4); allemande L 1st corner 1x, 1s give right to partner to
> form
> diagonal wave (4); balance (4)
>
> B1: 1s allemande Right .75, give LH to 2s corner to form diagonal
> wave (4);
> balance (4); allemande L 2st corner 1x, 1s give right to partner to
> form
> diagonal wave (4); balance (4)
>
> B2: 1s swing
>
>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Contra Corners Walk Through
>> To: Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com>
>> Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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>> Jack wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know of a dance already like that that I should be aware of?
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:40:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: jean francis <catherineaura(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Callers] ricochet or push-back heys
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> I am looking for some dances with push-back or ricochet heys. I
> have only found one, by Adam Carlson: A1 N B+S; A2 Ricochet hey
> B1wave balance, partner swing B2 Circle 3/4 pass thru, new N DSD
>
> Heard of another called Tapsalterrie, but can't find. Also would
> appreciate instructions or web site for Levi Jackson Rose.
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OK, I add my count to the righties. Though I can actually write with
my left when pressed.
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> From: Delia Clark <delia_clark(a)comcast.net>
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> I'm a righty, but I'm married to a lefty. Does that make me special?
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> On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Barbara Groh wrote:
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>> I'm right-handed, but I didn't speak up because...well, I was
>> starting to
>> feel "ordinary" in the midst of so many lefties.
>> ~Barbara
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tepfer, Seth" <LABST(a)emory.edu>
>> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 AM
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>>> What about all the righties? Are all the people not speaking up
>>> right
>>> handed or left handed and not chiming in?
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>>> I'm really curious about this now. This is fascinating.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> You may count me among the sinistrally enhanced.
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>>>> Joyce Miller wrote:
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>>>>> discovered that all three of us are left-handed. I am curious to
>>>>> know
>>>>> how many people on this list are left-hand dominant.
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> I favor my "other" left hand. Right, that one.
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> I'm right-handed, but I lean somewhat to the left.
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> LOL! i thought you were looking a little lopsided lately ;-p
> barb
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>> Lefty> > I'm right-handed, but I lean somewhat to the left.> >
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> When this thread title came up I thought it was a new dance title,
> something like Waiting for Godot. Au contraire!
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> For the survey, I am:
> ~ right hand dominant
> ~ left eye dominant
> ~ probably right brain dominant
>
> Fascinating factoid: For many years I entertained myself during
> long family trips and boring school days by practicing writing
> legibly with my left hand as well as with both hands simultaneously
> (LH frontwards l->r and RH backwards r->l) I just checked, and I
> am still reasonably good at both.
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This may have been covered before - I'm relatively new to this list
and to contra calling (~6 months) but I'm an experienced MWSD caller
(18 years).
Last weekend I called an open contra dance with a large number of
newcomers. Each time I introduced a new call in a walk-thru some of
the experienced dancers would "jump the gun" and (begin to) do the
call before I could even say "don't do it yet" or "but let me demo (or
explain) it first". This was a problem and a bit awkward to have to
ask them to "undo" or wait for me just a little bit more. It caused
confusion and took up valuable time.
In my MWSD world, I have students for months at a time (learning large
numbers of calls) and they get used to my style of teaching and
introducing something new. I'll say "new call time" to get their
attention and get a chance to explain what they will be doing before
they do it. Experienced dancers ("angels" in MWSD parlance) know not
to jump the gun. I even use a bit of the future tense to indicate that
I'm describing an action but not asking them to do it just yet, e.g.,
"you are going to cast 3/4 and then..." and my students and angels
know that this particular construction from me means "DON'T DO IT JUST
YET!". But they are "trained" this way since they are in a continuing
class setting.
How do you handle this in a contra setting. What language or other
techniques do you use to indicate that you're not quite yet done
talking and you want them to listen just a bit more or perhaps watch a
demo from one foursome?
I'm thinking something like "In a minute, I'm going to ask you to do a
Ladies Chain and what you will be doing is..." (though that's too
wordy for my own taste). I think it is important to name the call
before you describe the action, as this at least clues in the
experienced dancers what they'll be helping on (and it's just good
teaching). I've been to a dance where the caller tried to describe a
star promenade and butterfly whirl without using those terms and the
experienced dancers were confused. But how to keep them from jumping
the gun?
Any insights appreciated!
/Andy Shore
http://andyshore.com/
"Men of few words are the best men" . - King Henry the Fifth (Act III,
Scene II).
"Words, words, words." - Hamlet (Act II, scene ii).
Sorry for the confusion caused by my creative "Dead Coat Bounce." I do know the
correct title, but my fingers did the walking without being actively connected
to my brain.
David
Dead Coat Bounce (by Nathaniel Jack) contains a ricochet hey.
Levi Jackson Rose (Bernie Chalk)
Formation: Partners in a single circle of five couples
Music: "October Rose" composed by Ruth McLain Smith
Bar Count DESCRIPTION
A 1-8 16 All allemande left with corner (thumbs up hold), allemande right
partner and, retaining partner's right hand, all balance toward partner and away
from partner
A 1-8 16 Dropping hands, all move forward (men CCW and women CW), meet at the
opposite side of the set and swing.
Complete the swing early enough so that the women can "roll" off their
partners right arm to stand behind him, men arch
B 9-16 16 Ladies go under arch made by partner's L arm, move to the left and
come out the next arch, continue left and go under the next arch, 5 ladies join
hands in the center while men bring their joined hands over the ladies heads to
form the "Rose"
B 9-16 16 Basket goes clockwise
I offer my dance from several years ago. I find that dancers enjoy it.
HUNTSVILLE'S QUEEN BEE By Jane Ewing 2002
Duple Improper
A1 Neighbor See-Saw
Neighbor Almd Left 1 ½
A2 Queen Bee Hey
B1 Ladies pull by the right
Partner Swing
B2 Ladies Chain
Left Hand Star
Queen Bee Hey: Ladies do their traditional part in a hey for 4 - start by
passing
right shoulders.As the Ladies pass the Gent(Partner) by the left shoulder
the gents
head for the middle of the set. They approach each other with palms facing
the other gent. They push off by the palms and go back to place. They will
notice that some side stepping will facilitate the move. Important point -
Gents
should try to avoid tripping Ladies! Gents will repeat this move after
their
Neighbor passes them.
I started to choreograph a dance like this a few years ago, then I found
that Seth Tepfer had already done so, and his worked better than what I had
written.... But perhaps I will revisit it....
--jerome
Perforated Corners
By Seth Tepfer
Formation: improper contra
Level: Med
Composed: 3/20/2003
A1: (4) Down the Hall 4 in line, 1s in the center; (4) 1s turn as a couple,
2s turn alone; (4) up the hall 4 in line, (4) cast off with same gender
A2: 1s allemande Right .75, give LH to 1s corner to form diagonal wave (4);
balance (4); allemande L 1st corner 1x, 1s give right to partner to form
diagonal wave (4); balance (4)
B1: 1s allemande Right .75, give LH to 2s corner to form diagonal wave (4);
balance (4); allemande L 2st corner 1x, 1s give right to partner to form
diagonal wave (4); balance (4)
B2: 1s swing
>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Contra Corners Walk Through
> To: Jack Mitchell <jamitch3(a)mindspring.com>
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> Jack wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a dance already like that that I should be aware of?
>
>
>
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In my high school Latin class 13 out of 16 students were left handed, and the teacher. I'm right-handed, and the only one teaching Latin today. Hmm. Nell
: Stacy Rose <stacyrose12(a)verizon.net>
>Date: 2008/02/06 Wed PM 06:04:47 CST
>To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>,
Joyce Miller <joyceling(a)sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Waiting for Lefty
>>
>>How does one find out which eye is dominant? This is has never come up in my lifetime.
>>
>
>
>For eye dominance, you offer someone a piece of paper with a small hole in it and ask them to look through. Whichever eye they hold the paper up to is their dominant eye.
>
>For ear dominance, you tell someone that there are people talking about them in the next room. You suggest they go over and put their ear against the wall to hear what is being said.
>
>For foot dominance, you put an onject directly in front of them and ask them to kick it. Do this three times.
>
>Fun stuff!
>
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